So my understanding of that is if faculty don’t update their meetings to require passcodes ahead of that. Students will be locked out and confused

I love that their solution is "delete the meeting and reschedule".

@Jim, even meetings created in Canvas and students can log in through canvas?

@Wendy it sounds like it

@Jim—fun :(

lol

@One is leading the way! Grateful :) https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vne75NmZRtYVPHuYCbespFdW0QQVLVRIND_mrDJwJZs/edit?usp=sharing

@Wendy: Just update your link & if you had them scheduled for the semester, you can just "edit" all instances and use the linke with the passcode embedded -- you will know because you'll see a super long url with ?pwd in it after the meetibgn number

@Wendy in some (most? All? ) cases Zoom meetings created through Canvas integration should have that password embedded already. But I think it’s not universal and it may also depend on which version of integration you are on

@Wendy: If you scheduled using the ConferZoom LTI, that already embeds a pwd in it.

https://www.asccc.org/events/2020-10-08-180000-2020-10-09-230000/2020-academic-academy-virtual-event

https://education.ucdavis.edu/turning-dime

On August 6th 2020 @One hosted Achieving Equity in STEM Through Authentic Assessments Webinar. Alternatives to surveillance proctoring are showcased https://youtu.be/dWybZejpFSI

Cassandra Hart cmdhart@ucdavis.edu

@Kandace - where can we register for the panel between FACCC and ASCCC in October?

• Almost All Online• Almost Back to Normal• No Decision Yet

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Ohlone College - no decision yet

Almost all online, whole district, whole year.

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cypress - almost all online CTE/Health science some labs

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No decision yet at FHDA.

Public Safety and Nursing

EMT Welding

Organic Chemistry, First Responders, Clinic Hours

Essential CTE

EMT, Welding

Labs nursing

Exceptions = hybrid Chemistry

Nursing Program - partially f2f

Nursing, a few science labs very difficult to go online

automotive

Welding and RVT hybrid

Nursing, Fire Academy, Welding

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Automotive

almost all online; Nursing exception (LASC)

Nursing hybrid as well

EMT, hybrid labs

labs - science

Mostly career ed F2F or hybrid

Manufacturing

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Hard to convert: Labs with chemicals, nursing, ceramics

Thanks Kandace for the mention of these research projects. Many (most?) of you should have received some survey links and I hope to be in contact with many of you for interviews as well. Thanks to everyone who has participated so far! If anyone has questions, please feel free to message me or email at cmdhart@ucdavis.edu.

Nursing, welding, linemen and carpentry that I know about

Curriculum is prioritizing courses to be on campus

Microbiology, nursing clinicals etc.

(science lab instructors are choosing to stay online. Yipes.)

Working towards EMT nursing welding fire academy to have some face-to-face

And nursing

nursing is coming to campus, intercollegiate classes, a few lab classes are coming to campus

a few science labs and CTE classes will have modified campus experiences

CTE labs

exceptions - fine woodworking, welding meeting F2F

Exceptions: First responders, possibly advanced science labs

Exceptions: SDCE, CNA, Welding, Auto, and other courses that require hands-on certification

https://telehealth.org/blog/zoom-fatigue-what-it-is-what-you-can-do/

Classes that uses large equipment like fashion design pattern makers, EMTs/Nursing, Aviation, etc

neither marathon nor spring — one way ride

Rio has not announced for Spring but right now through winter session we are remote or online.

Why did they do this mid semester??

Rio Hondo nursing, bio, fire, and autotech are hybrid

Is anyone from TechConnect here to discuss passcode vs passcode OR waiting room?

setup a redirect, embed the password in it.

This is a change from Zoom itself

Zoom is requiring passcodes or waiting rooms, is TechConnect doing only passcodes

https://ccctechconnect.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360053030814-Zoom-Passcode-Update-September-27-2020%20

waiting rooms > passwords

Not a fan of mid-semester changes :-(

Both are not foolproof when the main issue is legit Zoom attendees sharing info with disrupters.

@Nick: yes -- this or embedding as a button on a Canvas Page (if you aren't allowed to edit your Redirect buttons) makes it seamless for the students.

Right, but I’m just unclear, the Zoom announcement is specifically that all meetings require passcodes or waiting rooms, TechConnect specifically says passcodes, are they implementing that as a stricter requirement than the new Zoom requirement?

Online with Flexible == HyFlex?

Nick, no , that’s not Hyflex

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Hyflex means classes run on campus that can also be attended online

Same meeting online or in person, or alternative equivalent online?

Usually it’s same but attendance at the meeting (whether in-person or online) is optional

It seems that we now need separate terms for synchronous vs asynchronous online.

Totally agree, Tracy. I hope this would be revisited.

We are using Live Online for synchronous

Every class has some asynchronous component

Yes, definitely! We are calling synchronous, Remote Synchronous Instruction (RSI).

DECO asked chancellor’s office?

Green screen requires a minimum hardware component, sounds like a equity issue

What about for ASL classes and public speaking classes? Cameras are needed for both…

@Carol, yes.

@Katie good term RSI

getting an opinion re: video sharing would be VERY helpful!

These terms can be really confusing for students

@Katie, thanks

Our legal counsel said it's not illegal, but I hope that's not the end of the discussion

@Moses: It's still under eval for some other accounts like government ones, but in May, all free/basic had to have one, Ed for 9/27, some others in Oct. https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360033559832-Meeting-and-webinar-passcodes

We will advise as soon as we hear from CCCCO!

@Jodi Reed. At MSJC we adopted Real Time and Anytime

@Matt -- we drew from some of the 4 year terms. It stuck... Makes it a bit easier when distinguishing modes. Still confuses a lot of students, though... :(

Synchronous and asynchronous did not mean much to students

@Katie thanks

Did Rebecca replace someone or is this an additional position?

YAY!!!!

Right now we have “Online” and “Scheduled Online” but honestly the real difference is that students need to note that scheduled online classes have a day/time listed in the class schedule while async classes do not.

finding out sooner rather than later will let us adapt more easily

Can we get rid of Proctorio and replace it with something that's equitable?

what would be more euitable?

Yesssss @Lisa...

Hi everyone! My position, VC of Ed Services, is formally known as VC of Student Services and Special Programs. Not a new position.

Welcome, Rebecca!

are the support tools going to be carried until the academic year Spring 2021 or only until Fall 2020?

Welcome, Rebecca!

@ Nick: Yes, good question -- none that we looked at are mobile friendly -- the majority of students polled are accessing classes on a mobile device

Welcome, Rebecca! Someone with a JD background will certainly be useful moving forward! :)

Thank you everyone. Look forward to the partnership.

Thank you Rebecca :) Welcome!

If there is a live proctoring tool considered “equitable” I would be surprised. They all have the same issues, don’t they? At least Proctorio doesn’t involve being watched by a stranger

And Proctorio didn't have a data breach this year like Proctor U....

This came to surface in December. On pause because of COVID, but will be coming back …. https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/15/theres-a-new-front-in-the-college-cheating-scandal-online-classes/

Proctorio did have some pretty smarmy stuff going on though

We need something like Proctorio and I haven’t seen a better one yet (but always looking)

But some parts of Proctorio don’t read our students with darker skin tones…

yes

We disabled many of Proctorio’s features for that reason.

Maybe we could bring these needs to Proctorio so that they could improve their product?

We did.

2013

we are receiving multiple student petitions this year pleading to stop the use of remote proctoring services/specifically proctorio and its invasive techniques.

2014

We are hearing it from students, too.

Yes... :( We've also had problems with students who might have people in their backgrounds as well. One student told our DE Coordinator that had to go to a hotel to gain access and have quiet at that specific time. Defeats the purpose of being a CCC student, equity and access. :(

If you search Proctorio on Twitter, you see a lot of student movements against its use

Hollowing out Proctorio to the bare minimum let’s you at confirm the identify of the student and minimizes equity and complexity issues. It at least gives you a baseline for credible assessments.

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Ultimately the problem is the paradigm of assessment, not the technology, no?

@jim yes

Agreed, @Jim

@jim yes

Agreed

@Jim-- yes.

Yes, @Jim!

Jim—Exactly! We don’t need to police our students. Authentic and meaningful assessment is what is needed.

@Jodie Steeley - Rebecca replaces Rhonda Mohr.

@Cynthia, YES!

Right @Jim, so we are having to help faculty rethink how they do assessment and offer alternatives to online proctoring,

lol

I'd like to have a copy of that to frame!

You nailed it!

2 hours per day (I have children haha)

@Jim- absolutely. For those who have state board exams that require certain types of high stakes assessments, it's a challenge.

Aileen, for sure.

Using proctorio for weekly assessments reduces the stakes per assessment and increases student familiarity and comfort.

@Nick good idea

Wendy is Faculty Co-chair rep ; I am Administrator co-chair rep. :)

Congratulations!

Yes, students

Yes - focus on students is key!

Equity starts with equitable access. Find a way to get 5G for CCC students across the board.

Don't forget that many students live in rural areas with minimal support

Many of our instructors also live in rural areas with minimal support (like me!)

is there a timeline for the revised agreement?

Is there an update on acceptance of new applications?

What about accessibility tools in the ecosystem? Captioning to meet legal requirements for live meetings?

Plus VC Gomez spoke at last DECO meeting. Recording is posted to DECO website.

Link to July 7 memo: https://www.cccco.edu/-/media/CCCCO-Website/Files/Communications/COVID-19/covid19-systemwide-technology-resources-DII-20-02.pdf?la=en&hash=9B880A9A6D379263CC513443369DAA33FB1D3AF1

How can I find the Barney Gomez document/email?

Thanks, Erin

http://otter.ai has been a good option (and free/low cost) for captioning

Out: CVC-OEI. In: CVC?

Good question, Dan. Looks like it from the slide.

@Dan. We will ask!

Seems like faculty prefer phone and students prefer chat

@Canvas Chat -- yay … it's better to be able to multitask while being #99+ in the queue

@Nick, yes, and Zoom has a beta with Otter. Ava is amazing, too. https://www.ava.me/

@Yes Lisa - totally agree

Jory will be addressing CVC v CVC-OEI here …

@Lisa: Yes -- the callbacks have been working for some on hold

@Susan Harlan - Accessibility tools is part of the systemwide online technology resources under consideration. The CCCCO Legal team is looking into the captioning requirements.

@Erin YAY!

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Yes, We are transitioning to CVC.

Going once…going twice

Did Jory mention when the phone-to-chat shift will happen?

That is great news, Erin! Looking forward to hearing more

:-) oh wait, that’s the periodic table!

Jan 1, 2021

Thank you

The chat is now available from the Canvas Help Menu.

@Lisa chat is already there. Phone is going away except for 6am-6pm for admins

@Susan - yes, but wasn't aware that phone was going away. Love the chat but some faculty are not fans

@Lisa: Chat is available now. Phone support will end on Dec 31 unless the college decides to purchase that themselves

Do courses need to be peer-reviewed and benchmarked against the CVC-OEI rubric to be approved for cross-enrollment?

CVC Course Finder Self-Service - https://cvc.edu/cvc-course-finder-self-service/

@Melissa, no, they do not need to be.

@Bob - yes! fully aware that chat is available now. Just was not aware that phone was going away. I appreciate the information that it will happen 1/1

@MelissaMcElvane All courses will be visible in the Finder. However, in order to display the Quality Reviewed badge (and rise to the top of the search results), the instructor/course would need to go through review and be aligned to the OEI Rubric.

Just to be 100% certain in this new model: Students can only still cross-enroll in OEI-aligned classes, correct?

If phone Help is going away, how will faculty order Canvas shells?

Scott, no, all online courses will be available

A little scary.

Are there other locations where faculty can go to get information about the Exchange and Home college designation? The current FAQ online is not very detailed and seems designed for students rather than faculty.

@Ingrid, do you have local, campus support?

@Ingrid chat

@Bret, we are building out an extensive Exchange webpage that will have all of that information. It will be live shortly.

But that may be a good question: do you have to be logged into Canvas to access the Canvas support chat?

@Jim, okay, Canvas chat will be the new/next way to request a Canvas shell. Got it.

@Andrea. Thanks! We are getting many, many questions.

We are also working on virtual toolkits for DE coordinators and PIOs.

That would be great. When?

I'm curious if the CCC Tech Center will be offering help desk support for general computer applications and function for students. Issues like, brower, cookies, uploading a document, copy/paste, etc.

Those will be distributed in October.

Fantastic. Thanks, Andrea!

Are home campus courses privileged in listing in an student search of the Exchange?

@Jodie, That is a big issue!

This matters a lot more under COVID than it did before

@Moses, if I understand your question, yes, a student’s Home College courses appear first in their search results.

@Andrea thanks that was my question and prior understanding, my faculty needed confirmation

@Susan The techcenter has blackbelt help for CCC Apply but not general computer applications. Seems logical

@Jim: In theory, users can access chat support via the "Help" link on your Canvas log in page.

(And will now breath a collective sigh of relief)

The FACCC-ASCCC event October 23rd is slated for 12-2 p.m.

@Moses :) Confirmed!

@Jodie does you college not have a help desk for students? Or are you looking for something to supplement your local?

@Thanks, Kandace!

Making a difference

@Bob we don’t really have a special Canvas log in page - accessing Canvas for MiraCosta takes you to the MiraCosta single sign-on

Yay, Melissa!!

I'm glad they found the worst screenshots of us all. :)

We like all had our mouths open :)

@Anna :)

@Jim...they are overwhelmed. If we are sharing students, sharing helpdesks may be a good move

Jory, Rebecca or Erin, do you know if the CO will be asking for input from the colleges as they determine what ecosystem tools/services they feel would best support student learning?

@Jodie Yeah having a systemwide model - maybe even a consortium like a lot of our librarians have - would; be cool

thank you-- very helpful information shared today. Have to get to my next meeting. Thanks again!

@Jodie the challenge is the local help desks deal with so many local/college-specific issues. Sorting the general computer questions from those would be important

I like the comment real and perceived issues

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/12/15/theres-a-new-front-in-the-college-cheating-scandal-online-classes/

SAME

Just out of due diligence...I received a quote from Proctorio $15 a student

Will Canvas Studio be funded long term? We are evaluating it now but many of us are worried about investing time in the application if it ends up that the Chancellor's Office will not fund in the long run.

Authentic Assessment is great, but do all instructors believe that is what is best for all education?

Proctorio

Authentic assessments are not always appropriate for all types of assessments.

Grateful the system is recognizing online proctoring as a threat to equity-centered teaching.

when will proctorio funding sunset?

However, I wonder why all assessments need to be proctored?

@Jim and @Jodie our district is starting a shared student tech help desk model

Jodi it’s scheduled to go away at the end of Dec

@Wendy: You don't need to "delete" just edit the meeting and use the updated URL

Thank you

You’ll always be OEI to me :-)

Thanks to you all for letting me join today, and thanks again to everyone participating in our COVID surveys or interviews!

@Jim AWWWW

2 years!

Thanks!

how can we get studio contract info?

@Jodie Reed send an email to support@cvc.edu and we’ll get you that pricing info

It would be be great if TechConnect could take on the Canvas Studio license so we wouldn't have to look at switching again potentially in 2 years.

support@cvc.edu

TechConnect is working on integrating Studio with PlayPosit so it would be cool if they can take on longer term support for Studio

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you to all.

Thank you Jory and Erin!

Thanks!

Thank you all

Thanks!

Thanks everyone!!! It’s my pleasure to join you.

Thank you everyone!! Have a great weekend:-)

Thanks to all!

thank you

Have a lovely weekend, everyone!

Have a great weekend everyone!

@JIm: integration would be awesome with Playposit

thanks all - the chat and presentations were very helpful! Glad to see a similar reaction at other campuses

Be safe and well all!