Hello from Ingrid Greenberg, San Diego College of Continuing Education

Hi All from Crafton Hills College

Hello from West Valley College

Hi, Bridget Hoida, Saddleback College

Hi! Matt Calfin, Moorpark College

Greg Bormann, Antelope Valley College

Dave Dillon, Grossmont College

Scott Vigallon, Las Positas College

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DECO has two representatives who serve on the DEETAC board.

Has DECO taken any position on this proposed change?

Susan Johnson, Compton College

The DECO reps on DEETAC support the change

Good to know Lisa, thanks

So do the ASCCC reps

Lisa is one of our DECO reps at DEETAC.

I am the other

Good News

Yes!

Ally funding?

Erin- Do you know if the Chancellors office will be doing DE surveys this year?

What’s the deadline for spending the HEERF $?

Ally is one of the tools we are evaluating for statewide support for next year so there is no decision yet.

@Kandace end of September 2023

@Jory The accessibility position that our district is creating that is posted to the VRC DE Coordinators community explicitly supports our local POCR program as a first priority.

@Heather - No, the Chancellor's Office does not plan on running the DE student or faculty surveys at this time.

😬thanks, @Jim . . . really, I was paying attention—too many details

@Erin-Thank you!

@Erin do you think the CO will ever restart systemwide faculty and/or student DE surveys? Or would you recommend that colleges independently do that going forward?

Self-install instructions available at: https://cvc.edu/exchange/it/

@Jim - I am hopeful that we do some statewide DE surveys in the future. Ed Services is building a research team, so I hope to get in their queue.

Thanks, Erin, that’s promising. I think a lot of us have relied on those surveys to give us longitudinal and comparison data … and also to help fulfill accreditation expectations regarding regular evaluation of DE … so it’s hard to be in limbo with those.

Thanks, Jory

Thanks Jory!

It’s my pleasure. This is such a terrific group!

Agree, @Jim! I’m also hoping for some guidance for how to manage college data at the course level when coding during the pandemic was . . . inconsistent

@ Jim- I agree as well!

I thought the new standard was WCAG version 2.1 level AA.

Are users with disabilities part of the National Digital Access Team?

Good questions! We will bring to her attention when she pauses or at conclusion.

What tools does the OCR use to evaluate websites for accessibility?

Does Ava have a recommendation for handling a situation where an instructor is using a governmental website or document as a learning tool but the resource isn’t accessible?

Does OCR hold the vendor responsible for accessibility barriers in its product when the institution does not have control over removing the barrier?

Thank You Very Much for saying that

I always thought auto captions on YouTube did not meet accessibility standards.

@Jennifer I believe she meant the navigational aspect was more accessible, not that the video itself was.

@Helen, thanks!

@Helen, I understood the statement in the same way

Regarding auto-captioning, I think it’s also important to note that she keeps saying OCR doesn’t hold to a strict standard (508/WCAG) - so the issue might arise if it was clear that auto captioning for a particular case was not providing equally effective access - but from the OCR perspective, use of auto-captioning doesn’t automatically equal accessibility non-compliance

equally effective alternate access plans

Related to alternative access: Would being in process of updating course materials be the same as a website. meaning a faulty member has a note in syllabus or identified a plan for updating the course materials.

just attended training on the process to determine fundamental alteration. Very specific expansive, time intensive process that should be followed in order to make a case.

Thank you SO much!!!

Awesome!

It was very helpful, thank you!

Thank you!!

The new version of Adobe Premiere has a captioning functionality, for you editors out there.

you may want to refer to the Harvard and MIT settlements regarding auto-captioning

Is there a threshold for meeting compliance on captions, what would be appropriate level of accuracy?

I am hearing that you need to correct your auto captions.

OCR is only one aspect of accessibility “compliance” though...

Their standards are not the only standards.

It also sounds like no service provides auto captions that are perfect.

What counts for being “on notice”?

What if the institution did not contract with the non-compliant vendor--the faculty member did? Faculty can require students to purchase access codes for electronic platforms without an institutional contract.

Great Session

Ava referred to colleges being liable based on “contract” rather than vendors. Does that apply for inaccessible commercial textbooks instructors choose? No formal contract but publisher is “vendor”…

Thank you

Thank you!

Thank you so much!

Thank you!

Excellent discussion today! Thank you :)

Thank you, this was so informative!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you, Ava!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thank you!

Thanks!

Regarding "converting to accessible PDF", check the process that is appropriate for the product being used, i.e., Google Docs are different than documents from Word, etc.

Thank you Ava!

Than you!

Thank you all

Thanks!

Thanks!

Thanks. Very informative.

Article on auto captions from NDC https://www.nationaldeafcenter.org/news/auto-captions-and-deaf-students-why-automatic-speech-recognition-technology-not-answer-yet

Done! :-D