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March 2021 Online DE Coordinators Org. Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Ingrid Greenberg
13:35
Hello from Ingrid Greenberg, San Diego College of Continuing Education
Cynthia Hamlett
13:42
Hi All from Crafton Hills College
Whitney Clay
13:54
Hello from West Valley College
Bridget Hoida
14:00
Hi, Bridget Hoida, Saddleback College
Matt Calfin
14:09
Hi! Matt Calfin, Moorpark College
Greg Bormann
14:30
Greg Bormann, Antelope Valley College
Dave Dillon (he him his)
15:02
Dave Dillon, Grossmont College
Scott Vigallon
17:55
Scott Vigallon, Las Positas College
Kandace Knudson
21:10
Here is the repository link: https://cccpln.csod.com/phnx/driver.aspx?routename=Social/Topic/TopicDetails&topic=1790&root=14
CCC DECO
24:02
DECO has two representatives who serve on the DEETAC board.
Jim Julius (he/him)
25:05
Has DECO taken any position on this proposed change?
Susan Johnson (she/her/hers)
25:36
Susan Johnson, Compton College
Lisa Beach (she/her)
25:46
The DECO reps on DEETAC support the change
Jim Julius (he/him)
25:57
Good to know Lisa, thanks
Lisa Beach (she/her)
26:00
So do the ASCCC reps
CCC DECO
26:11
Lisa is one of our DECO reps at DEETAC.
Kandace Knudson
26:52
I am the other
Matthew Moore Ventura College
30:24
Good News
Jory Hadsell
30:50
Yes!
Whitney Clay
30:57
Ally funding?
Heather Rothenberg
31:42
Erin- Do you know if the Chancellors office will be doing DE surveys this year?
Kandace Knudson
32:24
What’s the deadline for spending the HEERF $?
Erin Larson
32:29
Ally is one of the tools we are evaluating for statewide support for next year so there is no decision yet.
Jim Julius (he/him)
33:13
@Kandace end of September 2023
CCC DECO
33:46
@Jory The accessibility position that our district is creating that is posted to the VRC DE Coordinators community explicitly supports our local POCR program as a first priority.
Erin Larson
33:55
@Heather - No, the Chancellor's Office does not plan on running the DE student or faculty surveys at this time.
Kandace Knudson
33:59
😬thanks, @Jim . . . really, I was paying attention—too many details
Heather Rothenberg
34:16
@Erin-Thank you!
Jim Julius (he/him)
35:07
@Erin do you think the CO will ever restart systemwide faculty and/or student DE surveys? Or would you recommend that colleges independently do that going forward?
Andrea Hanstein
36:03
Self-install instructions available at: https://cvc.edu/exchange/it/
Erin Larson
38:06
@Jim - I am hopeful that we do some statewide DE surveys in the future. Ed Services is building a research team, so I hope to get in their queue.
Jim Julius (he/him)
39:31
Thanks, Erin, that’s promising. I think a lot of us have relied on those surveys to give us longitudinal and comparison data … and also to help fulfill accreditation expectations regarding regular evaluation of DE … so it’s hard to be in limbo with those.
Matthew Moore Ventura College
39:33
Thanks, Jory
Moses Wolfenstein
39:46
Thanks Jory!
Jory Hadsell
40:02
It’s my pleasure. This is such a terrific group!
Kandace Knudson
40:37
Agree, @Jim! I’m also hoping for some guidance for how to manage college data at the course level when coding during the pandemic was . . . inconsistent
Heather Rothenberg
42:30
@ Jim- I agree as well!
Linda Delzeit
45:37
I thought the new standard was WCAG version 2.1 level AA.
Nicolás Crisosto
46:57
Are users with disabilities part of the National Digital Access Team?
CCC DECO
47:41
Good questions! We will bring to her attention when she pauses or at conclusion.
Del Helms
48:30
What tools does the OCR use to evaluate websites for accessibility?
Helen Graves - CVC/@ONE
49:00
Does Ava have a recommendation for handling a situation where an instructor is using a governmental website or document as a learning tool but the resource isn’t accessible?
Nicolás Crisosto
54:12
Does OCR hold the vendor responsible for accessibility barriers in its product when the institution does not have control over removing the barrier?
Matthew Moore Ventura College
55:01
Thank You Very Much for saying that
Jennifer Kienzle
56:19
I always thought auto captions on YouTube did not meet accessibility standards.
Helen Graves - CVC/@ONE
56:46
@Jennifer I believe she meant the navigational aspect was more accessible, not that the video itself was.
Jennifer Kienzle
57:03
@Helen, thanks!
Davena BurnsPeters (she/her/hers)
59:39
@Helen, I understood the statement in the same way
Jim Julius (he/him)
59:56
Regarding auto-captioning, I think it’s also important to note that she keeps saying OCR doesn’t hold to a strict standard (508/WCAG) - so the issue might arise if it was clear that auto captioning for a particular case was not providing equally effective access - but from the OCR perspective, use of auto-captioning doesn’t automatically equal accessibility non-compliance
Nicolás Crisosto
01:00:21
equally effective alternate access plans
Cynthia Wilshusen
01:01:52
Related to alternative access: Would being in process of updating course materials be the same as a website. meaning a faulty member has a note in syllabus or identified a plan for updating the course materials.
Natalie Bradley
01:02:27
just attended training on the process to determine fundamental alteration. Very specific expansive, time intensive process that should be followed in order to make a case.
Margaret Worsley
01:06:29
Thank you SO much!!!
Jon Stocker Merced College
01:06:42
Awesome!
Didem Ekici
01:06:46
It was very helpful, thank you!
Jory Hadsell
01:08:13
Thank you!!
Jon Stocker Merced College
01:09:20
The new version of Adobe Premiere has a captioning functionality, for you editors out there.
Nicolás Crisosto
01:09:40
you may want to refer to the Harvard and MIT settlements regarding auto-captioning
Cynthia Wilshusen
01:09:42
Is there a threshold for meeting compliance on captions, what would be appropriate level of accuracy?
Matthew Moore Ventura College
01:09:45
I am hearing that you need to correct your auto captions.
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:09:52
OCR is only one aspect of accessibility “compliance” though...
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:10:03
Their standards are not the only standards.
Matthew Moore Ventura College
01:10:33
It also sounds like no service provides auto captions that are perfect.
Brett Myhren
01:10:47
What counts for being “on notice”?
Tracy Schaelen
01:11:34
What if the institution did not contract with the non-compliant vendor--the faculty member did? Faculty can require students to purchase access codes for electronic platforms without an institutional contract.
Matthew Moore Ventura College
01:11:58
Great Session
Dave Dillon (he him his)
01:11:59
Ava referred to colleges being liable based on “contract” rather than vendors. Does that apply for inaccessible commercial textbooks instructors choose? No formal contract but publisher is “vendor”…
Matthew Moore Ventura College
01:12:02
Thank you
Dave Dillon (he him his)
01:12:23
Thank you!
Cheryl Chapman, CVC
01:12:24
Thank you so much!
Lisa Maisano Kennedy
01:12:25
Thank you!
Jory Hadsell
01:12:26
Excellent discussion today! Thank you :)
Wendy Bass
01:12:26
Thank you, this was so informative!
Meghan M Chen
01:12:26
Thank you!
Cynthia Dewar (she|her)
01:12:27
Thank you!
Cynthia Hamlett
01:12:29
Thank you, Ava!
Cynthia Wilshusen
01:12:29
Thank you!
Cherylee Kushida
01:12:30
Thank you!
Janet Cagley
01:12:32
Thank you!
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:12:32
Thanks!
Nicolás Crisosto
01:12:35
Regarding "converting to accessible PDF", check the process that is appropriate for the product being used, i.e., Google Docs are different than documents from Word, etc.
Craig Donahue
01:12:37
Thank you Ava!
Nicolás Crisosto
01:12:39
Than you!
Alice Dieli (she, her, hers)
01:12:39
Thank you all
Brett Myhren
01:12:39
Thanks!
Ingrid Greenberg
01:12:40
Thanks!
Robin Kurotori
01:12:46
Thanks. Very informative.
Dawn Okinaka
01:12:53
Article on auto captions from NDC https://www.nationaldeafcenter.org/news/auto-captions-and-deaf-students-why-automatic-speech-recognition-technology-not-answer-yet
Cynthia Hamlett
01:13:16
Done! :-D