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October 2022 DE Coordinators Org. Meeting
Dave Dillon (he him his)
12:10
Hello from Grossmont College. GO PADRES!!! (Sorry Katie).
Brett Myhren
12:17
Hello from Saddleback!
Moses Wolfenstein
12:24
Good morning from El Camino
Tejal Desai-Naik (she/her)
12:25
Hello from Evergreen Valley College
Audrey Blumeneau
12:43
Hello San José City College!
Piper Rooney
14:15
Phew!
Ying Liu
14:19
Hello from City College of San Francisco
Katie Datko
14:54
Thanks, Jim!
Tracy Schaelen
14:55
So happy to see this topic on today's agenda!
Whitney Clay, Instructional Designer
17:46
Does anyone have these links to put in chat?
Jim Julius (he/him)
18:19
https://www.cccco.edu/About-Us/Chancellors-Office/Divisions/General-Counsel/Pending-Regulatory-ActionRegister in advance for this meeting:https://cccconfer.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZErf-uvrD4tE9Yvp8h2k_OsBqqLvIO0iIi0
Jim Julius (he/him)
18:26
I do :-)
Whitney Clay, Instructional Designer
18:27
@Jim Thanks!!
Suzanne Wakim
18:48
Will the webinar on 11/7 be recorded?
Katie Datko
19:07
Thanks, Erin!
Joanna Miller
19:43
Recording posted on CCCDECO.org site.
Dr. Marina Aminy, California Virtual Campus
20:00
Please also feel free to reach out to me directly with your questions: maminy@cvc.edu
Jim Julius (he/him)
20:24
Notify College Finance and Facilities Planning Division (FiscalStandards@cccco.edu) for an extension for signing the consortium agreement
Jim Julius (he/him)
20:46
Link to memo FS 22-07 -- https://www.cccco.edu/-/media/CCCCO-Website/College-Finance-and-Facilities/Fiscal-Memos/Fiscal-Memos/2022/FS-22-07-2022-23-COVID19-Emergency-Conditions-Allowance-Application.pdf?la=en&hash=20A49290C9DEB442B901EA51FF857AB0244ED45A
Bri Brown (she/her/hers)
21:24
Link to CCC implementation tracker: https://cvc.edu/exchange-implementation-board/
Jill Pfeiffer
21:25
This link goes to. page that says it has moved
Dr. Marina Aminy, California Virtual Campus
21:35
Here's a link to our dashboard to check where your college is: https://cvc.edu/exchange-implementation-board/
Maria Elena Fernandez
22:43
do hybrid courses fall into either 71 or 71 depending on how the online portion is delivered?
Dr. Marina Aminy, California Virtual Campus
22:52
Here's a link to the memo: https://www.cccco.edu/-/media/CCCCO-Website/College-Finance-and-Facilities/Fiscal-Memos/Fiscal-Memos/2022/fs2207202223covid19emergencyconditionsallowance-1a11y.pdf?la=en&hash=0BD97556AE587BB78395B95FCE91CB7623307D4F (hopefully this one works for folks)
Jim Julius (he/him)
23:08
FAQ on FS 21-12: Regulatory Changes to Distance Education Attendance Accounting - https://www.cccco.edu/-/media/CCCCO-Website/College-Finance-and-Facilities/Fiscal-Standards-and-Accountability/Attendance-Accounting-and-Residency/faqonfs2112regchangetlm175a11y.pdf?la=en&hash=FBDE93D9E9C1928F3EEFE4EABC662D8D34BC5908
Jim Julius (he/him)
23:32
sorry these super long links sometimes get wonky but doing my best to share what Erin gave us
Jim Julius (he/him)
23:48
FAQ on FS 21-12: Regulatory Changes to Distance Education Attendance Accounting - https://www.cccco.edu/-/media/CCCCO-Website/College-Finance-and-Facilities/Fiscal-Standards-and-Accountability/Attendance-Accounting-and-Residency/faqonfs2112regchangetlm175a11y.pdf?la=en&hash=FBDE93D9E9C1928F3EEFE4EABC662D8D34BC5908
Jennifer Kienzle
23:48
I added the PDF file above
Jim Julius (he/him)
23:53
thanks Jen!
Jim Julius (he/him)
24:14
Memo FS 21-09 - https://www.cccco.edu/-/media/CCCCO-Website/College-Finance-and-Facilities/Fiscal-Memos/Fiscal-Memos/2021/fs2109attendanceaccountingguidancefortransitiontoinpersoninsta11y.pdf?la=en&hash=179DFFBB4DADDB62C5D5352B001D909F8A2C5C48
Jim Julius (he/him)
24:43
Memo FS 21-12 - Allows compressed calendar districts to use a TLM of 17.5 - https://www.cccco.edu/-/media/CCCCO-Website/College-Finance-and-Facilities/Fiscal-Memos/Fiscal-Memos/2021/fs-21-12-regulatory-changes-to-distance-education-attendance-accounting-a11y.pdf?la=en&hash=751A5A2E82424F842F3669AB0731DD674C44E1C9
Maria Elena Fernandez
29:49
is this slide in a memo or will we have access to this after today?
Gregory Beyrer
30:29
Here's a screenshot
Katie Datko
30:33
Yes, Maria everything will be posted soon on the CCC DECO website -- http://cccdeco.org
Maria Elena Fernandez
31:07
thanks!
Carrie Monlux
32:09
Option 3, correct?
Bob Nash
33:01
Don't hybrid (onsite+online) courses carry the MIS code: HY?
Bob Nash
33:43
That is, neither 71 nor 72?
Wendy Bass (she/her)
33:47
So even for 15 or 8 week online classes, if the hours are consistent, it is the same funding formula?
Ingrid Greenberg
34:27
Re: Noncredit, can CCCCO review/revise the formula. The out-of-class factor is widely discussed as not matching noncredit instruction.
Katie Datko
35:37
Attendance accounting memos: https://www.cccco.edu/About-Us/Chancellors-Office/Divisions/College-Finance-and-Facilities-Planning/Fiscal-Standards-and-Accountability-Unit/Attendance-Accounting-and-Residency
Bob Nash
36:20
Will do
Rebecca Pang
37:29
Yeah. My understanding is that its around 96% FTES.
Jim Julius (he/him)
38:15
XF01 data element dictionary: https://webdata.cccco.edu/ded/XF/xf01.pdf - don't see an HY code there.
Bob Nash
39:15
Thanks Jim.
Katie Datko
42:09
Thank you, Erin!
Ying Liu
42:22
Thanks Erin!
Piper Rooney
42:49
Apologies for missing this survey!
Katie Datko
44:04
http://tinyurl.com/DECOmodalities will have links to all of the breakout rooms. Please click on the link that is the same of your room and use that to guide your group's discussion. We will be popping in to see if you have any questions!
Katie Datko
45:41
http://tinyurl.com/DECOmodalities
Jim Julius (he/him)
45:48
https://tinyurl.com/DECOmodalities
Gregory Beyrer
45:51
Thank you @Katie!
Katie Datko
46:06
Thanks to Jim and Joanna for putting all of this together!
Jennifer Kienzle
01:04:35
We have a cat that can share the recommendation 😜
Katie Datko
01:05:00
The cat was great!
Angela Cardinale (she/her)
01:05:11
@jennifer i love that lol
Joanna Miller
01:05:16
Breakout 1: In-person!
Piper Rooney
01:05:29
if college has multiple campuses, the on-campus can be tricky!
Joanna Miller
01:05:55
Breakout 2: No recommendation. Too confusing.
Pamela Bimbi
01:06:33
If a golf class requires in-person attendance at a golf course -- not on-campus -- we would not consider that online. Prefer in-person.
Joanna Miller
01:06:34
Breakout 6: Maybe in-person, but survey students.
Wendy Bass (she/her)
01:06:49
We said the same thing. We need students to give us their opinions in terms of what they understand
Joanna Miller
01:06:59
Breakout 7: Asynchronous Online.
Katie Datko
01:07:10
Breakout Room 3: Online Synchronous
Bob Nash
01:07:26
The CCC Foundation's Student Centered Design Lab could possibly help in gathering student input on this.
Wendy Bass (she/her)
01:07:28
That being said, if the state has consistent terminology, and we are all using the same terminology, students will learn it since it is consistent across all the schools
Joanna Miller
01:07:41
Breakout 3: Ask students, but Online Synchronous
Katie Datko
01:07:41
Breakout Room 8: Online Synchronous
Jennifer Kienzle
01:07:51
@Wendy - 💯
Katie Datko
01:07:59
Breakout Room 4: Hybrid-type Sections
Joanna Miller
01:08:15
Breakout 4: No consensus.
Jenna Tague
01:08:20
Breakout 10: We decided on Hy-Flex, but there's a need to have a description somewhere in scheduling software to help describe that. (Or really any modality) So the software needs to improve to help.
Joanna Miller
01:08:50
Breakout 8: No consensus
Angela Cardinale (she/her)
01:09:06
I think plain language is more equitable
Katie Datko
01:09:10
💯 Wendy
Rebecca Pang
01:09:14
agree
Katie Datko
01:09:31
Breakout Room 9: Hybrid-type Sections discussion
Joanna Miller
01:09:39
Breakout 9: Hybrid:
Luis A Gonzalez
01:09:45
thank you all - have to log off for the next meeting
Christopher Stillwell
01:09:46
(Just some context on the breakout 4 poll - the question was 'raise your hand if you would use the term hybrid', but most of our cameras were not turned on at that time, so I am not sure how many were participating in the poll)
Jim Julius (he/him)
01:10:07
lol ok thanks Christopher
Joanna Miller
01:10:18
Breakout 5: Hyflex with explanation.
Mary Wilhelm-Chapin
01:10:22
For hybrid: What do you call synchronous and asynchronous “hybrid”?
Xochitl Tirado
01:10:25
Agree with Wendy's statement. If we agree on terminology as a state it will be easier to educate all our students.
Christy Davis Roza (Chabot College)
01:10:27
Breakout 5: HyFlex with clear description
Ying Liu
01:10:48
Thank you!
Katie Datko
01:10:48
tinyurl.com/DECOmodalities
Tracy Schaelen
01:10:53
Thanks!
Brett Myhren
01:10:55
Thanks!