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Community of Practice: Managing the Grading Caseload - Shared screen with speaker view
Kelly Douglass
34:44
I miss blue books
Tucker Amidon
35:14
Hmm. I've always felt that blue books were the work of the devil. :-)
Star Taylor
35:35
I burn bluebooks
Kelly Douglass
35:57
Love the timer idea, Jan
Tucker Amidon
36:53
I use the same chunk grading mentality. "Get five done by X." "Get seven done before dinner." Helps me immensely.
Star Taylor
37:18
yes. reasonable chunks!!
tcarter
37:48
We shouldn’t use “good job” because it’s too vague?
Tucker Amidon
38:11
Ditto to Thatcher's question.
tammy
38:24
Perhaps, but I still find myself using it often.
Kelly Douglass
38:36
“Good job with the thesis because you really did…."
tammy
38:52
Same as "good question"
Kelly Douglass
39:00
Remind… or alert for the first time — thanks, Brit!
Dan Hogan
39:11
Best advice I preach (but that I need to more consistently practice) - put the phone in another room. And for the computer, I have used the Freedom app to keep me on target.
Star Taylor
39:20
i think good job with explanation is ok same
Wendy Silva
39:26
I do a lot of “good!” In my comments on essays, but I also add more extensive explanations in my feedback. It is a combo of short comments and longer, more extensive explanations
Tucker Amidon
39:40
Same here.
Brit Osgood-Treston
39:46
Same here
tammy
39:49
yes, same here
Star Taylor
40:01
i take my reasonable stack and move the other stack so i don't continue to focus on what i still have to do
Star Taylor
40:06
i focus on what is in front of me
tammy
40:08
Thanks, Tim, for the idea of a Feedback Key
Kelly Douglass
40:15
Star, that’s how I manage dishes
tammy
40:24
GREAT idea, Star
Star Taylor
40:31
hA!!! laundry
tammy
40:42
Kelly--LMFAO
Anderson Sandiford
40:50
Really appreciate Feedback Key.
Tucker Amidon
40:52
When I taught in the classroom, I'd do the same as what Tim is discussing with his crib sheet of comments. But I'd write them on the board and have the students take notes because I'd turn each one into a mini-grammar lesson.
Tucker Amidon
41:12
"CS means comma splice. Here's what a comma splice is …"
Kelly Douglass
41:13
that’s a good idea, Tucker!
Janelle Arafiles
41:21
Good idea!
Adrien Lowery
41:32
Students often feel that "Good" means an "A" then they get mad when it isn't an "A." The specific thing they did well seems to avoid that potential bit of quicksand.
Kelly Douglass
41:40
That could even be a video that you pre-record and re-use
Cindy Bendshadler
41:54
Thank you, Brit! I have been calculating percentages and converting to points.
Anderson Sandiford
41:55
Thanks Britt
Janelle Arafiles
42:20
Is the feedback key available for reference somewhere?
Tucker Amidon
42:23
Online, I'm going to do what Tim has done, but I'll maybe add links to websites that teach these grammar ideas. The video walk-through is a good idea too, Kelly.
Tucker Amidon
42:33
Great trick, Brit.
Star Taylor
43:06
nice idea, brit
Cindy Bendshadler
43:29
Turnin's ETS button links to an online handbook. I've been trying to do a "Writer's Workshop" on final draft due dates answering questions based on what Turnitin marks. However, attendance at those zoom sessions has been low overall.
Star Taylor
44:02
did not know what. where is the ETS button?
Carolyn Rosales
44:41
In Turnitin? I think it’s the purple button, right?
Cindy Bendshadler
45:18
Once someone turns in a draft to Turnitin, on the similarity report, it is beneath the red section that shows potential plagiarism "matches". They can select and deselect what they want to look at in terms of grammar. It's not perfect, but it's a good starting point for editing work.
Anderson Sandiford
45:23
How do we view the balance between the technical aspects of paper versus the content validity?
Tucker Amidon
45:26
I like your approach, Tim. I'll mark those minor issues so that they can learn for next time, but I do not ding them about them.
John Sullivan
46:02
I've been using Turnitin's Quickmarks, but I've customized them for my classes based on what we talk about in class. Really handy, and I have specific "good" items: "good use of support, good intro tag, good citation, good topic sentence
Tucker Amidon
46:10
And shutting down video can help the audio streaming quality.
Tucker Amidon
46:16
For students.
Dan Hogan
48:09
@ Tim - That's an incredibly helpful strategy re: due dates
Jan Andres
48:15
Right, note to self, don’t make everything due Sunday night!
Carolyn Rosales
48:28
My most recent adjustment for low stakes assignments: Complete / Incomplete grades only
James Ducat
48:30
@Jan - YES
tammy
48:50
Right! Haven't quite figured out how to do that without student revolt, but important to figure out.
tcarter
48:58
@Carolyn YES
Kelly Douglass
49:00
Yes! Making a master grading calendar for yourself is a great idea! Best idea when possible to do it before the term starts so you can tinker with the calendar for different classes where it will matter
Tucker Amidon
49:09
@ Tim - what's reading?
James Ducat
49:13
@Carolyn - I included credit. So full, half, none
tcarter
49:14
@Kelly YES
Star Taylor
49:54
i print out the calendar from canvas so i can see what is due when. i need to pace myself and not allow things to pile up
Janelle Arafiles
50:10
How long of a turn around time do you give yourselves to grade final draft essays?
Brit Osgood-Treston
50:20
Yes, the Canvas calendar is pretty good
tcarter
50:29
Tim, that’s a huge load of grading and prepping. And a lot of other stuff on your plate.
John Sullivan
50:41
Like Tim said, I've allowed late work and actually removed closing dates because so many of my students have had a lot of difficulty with this transition. Only 40% of my students are involved in any way, but I am beginning to get more emails from MIAs who are reporting their difficulties and asking for help making a plan to catch up.
Star Taylor
50:42
since i cannot use my giant calendar in my office. :(
Alexandria Gilbert
50:43
@Janelle I aim for 2 weeks as a goal
Cindy Bendshadler
50:56
In normal life, I would give myself up to a week, but that's not always realistic right now.
Sophia
51:00
2 weeks is reasonable
Kelly Douglass
51:03
@Janelle — I’m like Alex — go for 2 weeks
Star Taylor
51:04
thank you for that Tim. realistic is the key
Sophia
51:06
I do that too.
John Sullivan
51:06
I advise them to do one missing/incomplete time per day
Tucker Amidon
51:08
I require myself to get essays back before the rough draft of the next essay is due. I usually get them back sooner than that, but that's my outer limit
Anderson Sandiford
51:11
Students seem to appreciate my honesty about how this is impacting me.
Star Taylor
51:11
Same..2 weeks
tammy
51:12
@janelle - as long as I've given students to write the essays (2 weeks to write; maybe 2 weeks to get back)
John Sullivan
51:23
I do the same as Tucker
Janelle Arafiles
51:38
That's what I figured. Haha. That sounds reasonable. :)
Dan Hogan
53:33
They get the final draft back by the time the next one's due. I have a policy, however, for the essays I don't do in-person grading with, that students can meet me in drop-in hours to get it graded at my next drop-in Hour. So the ones who are chomping at the bit get theirs back if they really want it pronto.
Janelle Arafiles
54:04
Oh I love that!
Alexandria Gilbert
54:05
@Dan that’s a good idea too! I’m going to try for our current unit
Dan Hogan
54:47
Way easier for me to grade one student's essay in a 1-1 meeting than 30 students on my own time. It helps ease anxiety for those who are dying to know, but also allow me to pace myself otherwise.
tammy
55:03
@Dan Great idea.
Sophia
56:21
@Cindy, I do the to do list...it works well for me.
Kelly Douglass
56:22
I didn’t realize there was any other way to get to the assignments other than the to do list for a while. LOVE the to do list.
Star Taylor
56:25
Like Cindy is saying, I love the Dashboard aspect of Canvas. It helps me too
Star Taylor
57:27
I also like that Canvas has pronto on the very bottom of our Canvas homepage because students will drop a quick question there, so the whole class can see it. before i can even answer, students answer each other
Brit Osgood-Treston
57:34
Has anyone used voice comments in SpeedGrader?
Alexandria Gilbert
57:51
@Brit - I tried, but it was a bit clunky
Cindy Bendshadler
57:53
@Adrien, great idea! I've been using it to create virtual tours of the week's work, but hadn't thought of that
tammy
57:57
@brit Yes, but only for short assignments.
James Ducat
58:00
@Brit - I have, and students liked it
Brit Osgood-Treston
58:19
Thanks! I'll have to try. :)
James Ducat
58:22
Very helpful for rough drafts, IMHO
Kelly Douglass
58:26
DJ HAWKINS RULESSSSSS
Anderson Sandiford
58:59
Thank you for that Lowery. I am going to look into that.
Cindy Bendshadler
59:17
You have to set up the rubric in Canvas before setting up Turnitin.
Alexandria Gilbert
59:40
@cindy - Yes!! I realized that the hard way a few times
tcarter
01:00:45
So great to see you too, Anderson!
Anderson Sandiford
01:00:56
It is really so encouraging to just be on a conference with people of my field. Thankyou all.
Kelly Douglass
01:01:14
@ Anderson — I agree; it’s great to see everyone!
tammy
01:01:20
I agree, Anderson. So happy to see you and to hear your thoughts!
Anderson Sandiford
01:01:27
I have not seen my veteran friend John in some time.
Mira Lugo
01:01:31
Thank you all for sharing.
James Ducat
01:01:42
THANK YOU!
tcarter
01:01:42
Thanks, Jan and the team!
Star Taylor
01:01:48
eat more snacks!!!
Sophia
01:01:57
Yes...snacks!
tcarter
01:01:57
@ Star - YES!
Star Taylor
01:01:59
Thanks for sharing everyone
Kelly Douglass
01:03:18
I agree with Tammy, but options are great
John Sullivan
01:03:35
Office 365
Kelly Douglass
01:03:58
YES
John Sullivan
01:04:01
There is a link in the Canvas Menu that you can put on your page
John Sullivan
01:04:35
For 365, they do have to save it as a .docx
Cindy Bendshadler
01:05:09
The borrowed laptops from the school do not allow them to save files to the laptop.
Tina Stavropoulos
01:05:43
I use Turnitin as an external tool on Canvas, and I know several students have had a problem uploading the file if they try to upload using GoogleDocs.
Cindy Bendshadler
01:05:45
Thanks!!!!!
Janelle Arafiles
01:05:49
One thing I have found as beneficial from Google Docs is the ability to share the document and edit/suggest revision in real time. For distance workshop, that could be useful.
Wendy Silva
01:05:54
How do you add turnout in to Canvas?
Wendy Silva
01:06:12
turnitin*
Alexandria Gilbert
01:06:20
@Wendy it’s in the details of the assignment
Star Taylor
01:06:22
i am with Tucker on that
Alexandria Gilbert
01:06:27
You select External Tools
Tina Stavropoulos
01:06:28
@wendy, you select external tool instead of online and the other options, and then scroll down
Star Taylor
01:07:36
someone share screen
James Ducat
01:07:39
soeone should share their screen
Star Taylor
01:08:02
don't show us your amazon shopping
Tucker Amidon
01:08:14
And don't be that dude from Florida.
Alexandria Gilbert
01:08:35
lol
Star Taylor
01:08:35
omg!!! yes please
Tina Stavropoulos
01:09:16
I never had a password
John Sullivan
01:10:04
I think it is already in the assignments. no additional app needed
Kelly Douglass
01:10:24
Also, Vincent Alonzo in his drop in hours are really super duper helpful with those kind of quick questions
Star Taylor
01:11:15
also explorer and chrome sometimes do not react the same to canvas with turnitin.
Kelly Douglass
01:12:47
What’s a cog bar?
Kelly Douglass
01:13:08
the gear wheel?
Janelle Arafiles
01:13:16
@Star so which search engine is not an issue? lol
Alexandria Gilbert
01:13:20
@kelly that’s what I’m guessing
John Sullivan
01:13:37
Kelly, yes the wheel
Janelle Arafiles
01:13:48
bye everyone!
Tina Stavropoulos
01:13:56
Thanks! :)
Susan M
01:14:01
THank yiu!