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October 2020 DE Coordinators Org. Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Jennifer Kienzle
18:21
Happy Friday :)
CCC DECO
23:04
Yes! Hello and happy Friday to all! Thank you for being here.
Jim Julius
24:49
Kandace, do you have a link to the article you can share? Sounds very interesting
Audrey Blumeneau
24:55
Can you share that article
Carrie Monlux
25:00
Can the link to the journal article be put in the chat?
Senya Lubisich (she/her)
25:13
please!
Jennifer Kienzle
25:17
Yes please share!
CCC DECO
25:26
Yes. Kandace will add when she is done with her presentation.
Nick DeMello
25:37
library can get the article
Davena BurnsPeters (she/her/hers)
26:03
Thank you Kandace.
Carrie Monlux
26:52
Academics = love journal articles
Kandace Knudson
27:00
https://odlaa.org/
Marina Aminy
27:27
The host can mute participants.
Marina Aminy
27:49
by clicking on the drop down menu in their box (top right)
Kandace Knudson
28:33
The Distance Education journal is locked down but I will do my best to track down that article and share it.
Kathy
28:45
Thanks Kandace!
Ingrid Greenberg
28:59
What is the title of the article?
Erin Larson
29:01
https://ccleague.org/advocacy/federal-advocacy/supporting-undocumented-students
Kandace Knudson
29:05
I have those links and will share, Erin
Jim Julius
29:56
So ready to get that supported tech info ...
Nick DeMello
30:19
proctorio is funded?
Kandace Knudson
30:31
FACCC future of DE event: https://faccc.memberclicks.net/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=icalrepeat.detail&evid=43&Itemid=162&year=2020&month=10&day=23&title=the-future-of-distance-education-symposium&uid=208410bf30d7d0d7bda882848920cfea
Meghan Chen
30:38
you asked my question, Nick! Thank you!
Brett Myhren
30:59
What was the planned release date for the memo?
Jim Julius
31:09
They had been saying “early to mid October"
Brett Myhren
31:18
Thanks!
Kandace Knudson
31:27
ASCCC event: https://www.asccc.org/events/2020-10-29-210000-2020-10-29-220000/webinar-challenges-and-opportunities-regarding-camera-use
Brett Myhren
32:39
Is there any additional guidance or materials that show colleges how it looks for students at home colleges?
Brett Myhren
32:56
The interface, I mean.
Betsy Allen
32:58
@Erin-- Any word on a webinar for financial aid directors for FA agreement?
Kandace Knudson
36:30
Title of article in Distance Education: A Critical Reconceptualization of Faculty Readiness for Online Teaching
Robin Kurotori
37:12
Thank you, Kandace.
Ingrid Greenberg
37:27
Thank you for article title.
Linda Delzeit
37:32
I'm concerned the arrows do not go back out to the light blue schools.
Meghan Chen
37:40
Yay, thanks so much, Kandace!
Kandace Knudson
37:55
:-)
Kandace Knudson
38:28
PM me if you have a hard time tracking down the article. :-)
James Glapa-Grossklag
38:38
How can we see an example of the student services / financial aid dashboard
Andrea Hanstein
38:50
@Linda, light blue schools are those who have not fully integrated and so students cannot cross enroll. Once they do, they will be able to accept students.
Kandace Knudson
38:52
Good question, James
Marina Aminy
39:19
@James, my financial aid director has the same request.
Andrea Hanstein
39:31
Our goal is to have all CCCs be dark blue with arrows going all directions.
Nick DeMello
40:02
is it a live connection or is phase one passing a data archive for classes? (thought live connection was phase 2)
Linda Delzeit
40:17
@Andrea - thank you for clarification
Andrea Hanstein
40:50
@Nick, Phase 1 live connection is pulling live course data so students can see live seat counts. They can’t cross enroll, but they can see if a class actually has space.
Brian (he, his, him) Weston
41:00
Are new applications to join CVC being processed?
Andrea Hanstein
41:14
@Brian, yes!
Moses Wolfenstein
42:21
I can’t say I love Proctorio, but many of my faculty are pretty attached to it
Wendy Bass
42:39
@Moses, agreed.
Davena BurnsPeters (she/her/hers)
42:57
Will the list decipher the difference in funding between consortium colleges versus others? Of has that line been blurred enough that that is not applicable in any form now?
Kandace Knudson
43:09
@Moses & @Wendy, are these DE faculty or pandemic DE faculty?
Scott Vigallon
43:59
@Kandace: At my college, it's both.
Jim Julius
44:00
@Andrea can you clarify whether all colleges are required to become teaching colleges to participate ?
Jim Julius
44:40
I thought light blue just meant that they were only choosing to participate as home colleges
Wendy Bass
44:52
@Kandace, a combo of both. But you are correct, I would say more remote instructors who went online for this pandemic
Andrea Hanstein
45:10
@Davena There will no longer be a distinction between consortium v non-consortium tools. Tools will be system-wide for all CCCs.
Nick DeMello
45:13
@Kandace, used in different ways much of our faculty rely on proctorio. at a minimum, to confirm student identity when taking assessments.
Kandace Knudson
45:22
@Scott, same at SCC, though we’re easing them toward authentic assessments and less of a reliance on Proctorio.
Cynthia Dewar (she/her/hers)
46:00
@Kandace-We are doing the same at City College!
Meghan Chen
46:16
Thank you, Jory!
Andrea Hanstein
46:39
I missed your question Jim, but it wasn’t on purpose :)
Kandace Knudson
46:53
@Matthew love your Zoom photo!
Jim Julius
46:57
You were busy! No problem
Davena BurnsPeters (she/her/hers)
47:15
@Andrea, thank you. So, with no distinction in the area of tools, what will the benefits be to remaining a consortium college. I am just trying to sort this out in my own head. :-)
Andrea Hanstein
48:33
@Davena, that will be one of the discussion topics at next week’s Consortium meeting, but I can tell you … being able to accept cross enrolled students, increased marketing across the state, access to our awesome PD and training, etc.
Kandace Knudson
49:00
In 5 years, will there be a need for the consortium?
Andrea Hanstein
49:26
@Kandace, in terms of the CVC Exchange and the technical components, agreements, yes.
Antoniette Aizon
49:32
How do I get invited to the Consortium meeting to get more information since we are a brand new college and are now trying to figure out the exchange.
Andrea Hanstein
49:47
@Antoinette, what college are you from?
Antoniette Aizon
50:04
Madera Community College - we are not part of the consortium
Nick DeMello
50:34
are we recording this?
Audrey Blumeneau
50:40
Yes, can non-consortium colleges attend meeting; I am working with SJCC to join.
Kandace Knudson
50:41
Yes, Nick
Angela Cardinale
50:44
Hey all, I have the pdf of that article if you want it.
Moses Wolfenstein
50:46
@Kandace They’re a mix and many of them are certified now and will continue doing online instruction. They are almost exclusively math and science faculty, and of course nursing which is categorically a bit different in terms of their need.
Nick DeMello
50:47
(would like to have link for faculty look)
Davena BurnsPeters (she/her/hers)
50:51
@Andrea, thank you so much. The clarity and response is appreciated. We are all looking forward to that next consortium meeting. :-)
Kandace Knudson
50:57
Thank you, @Angela!
Andrea Hanstein
51:16
Antionette, please send me your email. We can talk about having a meeting with your college to get you brought up to speed. The Consortium meeting is for colleges who are currently members, but we would love to have you join!
Kandace Knudson
51:25
Thank you, too, @Andrea! :-)
Marina Aminy
51:53
CZAR!
Meghan Chen
52:15
Well deserved, James! Thank you for all your enthusiasm and hard work!
Laura Gentry
52:59
WENDY!!!!
Meghan Chen
53:09
Yay, Wendy!
James Glapa-Grossklag
53:18
sorry everyone!
James Glapa-Grossklag
53:22
Internet dropped!
James Glapa-Grossklag
53:26
I’m back
Kandace Knudson
53:56
https://sites.google.com/view/office-of-academic-affairs/remote-instruction
Moses Wolfenstein
56:00
wow…
Jim Julius
57:20
Thanks for sharing this, Wendy. This will be super useful - MiraCosta is just about to try to devise similar guidelines.
Kandace Knudson
57:44
Us, too . . . we’re building guidelines and these are so helpful
Carol Impara
57:54
Us too.
Lisa Beach
58:18
yes!
Audrey Blumeneau
59:05
These are terrific student testimonials! Powerful!
Brett Myhren
59:16
These are helpful videos, Wendy. Are you able to share the workshop materials?
mrooney
59:32
Excellent videos
Maritez Apigo
59:54
Those student videos are everything. Thank you, Wendy!
Bridget Hoida
01:00:35
Wendy I really appreciate the amazing student videos. Please share.
Wendy Bass
01:00:57
I will make sure to share, thanks everyone!
Kandace Knudson
01:01:16
https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/2020/08/23/guidance-for-synchronous-online-classes-from-college-of-the-canyons/
Nick DeMello
01:01:18
we don’t use proctorio to catch people cheating. we use to to confirm who took the exam, so we can credibly stand behind them when to speak about how well they learned the material.
Nick DeMello
01:01:46
it’s let’s us be more effective advocates
Jim Julius
01:03:56
I think most everyone would agree it’s a protected record. But what colleges may differ on is what the implications of that are.
Mike Smedshammer
01:04:07
I understand the serious problems with Proctorio, esp. re: equity. But how do you do authentic assessment in chemistry? Calculus? Physics? I'm not sure how to help our STEM faculty with summative assessment and would appreciate suggestions.
Jim Julius
01:04:07
(A recorded Zoom video including students)
Brett Myhren
01:05:15
@Mike. Some of our STEM teachers are starting with the answer and asking students to show or explain hot they got there.
Jennifer Kienzle
01:05:17
@Mike, same concerns! Our nursing and radiology faculty are concerned that without something like Proctorio that the integrity of their program will fall apart and that students will enter the medical field with poor training.
Wendy Bass
01:05:20
We lost him right in a crucial part!
DRAWBOJN@laccd.edu
01:05:48
Great points, James!
Kandace Knudson
01:05:50
Good question, Mike. We are facing the same challenge. I’m going to bring in someone to talk to our STEM folks who helped build the project-based learning model of UCD Vet School.
Wendy Bass
01:05:55
@James, can you share this form?
Kandace Knudson
01:06:14
https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/2020/08/23/guidance-for-synchronous-online-classes-from-college-of-the-canyons/
Del Helms
01:06:29
@Mike There are disciplines where demonstration of competency is a life or death matter and certification of competency requires authenticating student competency.
Moses Wolfenstein
01:06:50
@Mike my more adventurous math faculty are doing a combination of having students submit pictures or written assessments (with a handwriting sample submitted in week 1) and doing short 1:1 oral assessments
Jim Julius
01:07:03
@James can you clarify: Are you requiring instructors to get students to sign the form if they only want to share back recordings with the current class and never a future class?
Brandon Gainer
01:07:04
I think James cut out before the response to question 8 (e.g. ‘what if the courses require demonstrations/etc.)
Heather Rothenberg
01:07:04
@Nick, our college uses it for this purpose as well. Also, for exam security. Many faculty do not want assessment shared. You can download anything from Canvas.
James Glapa-Grossklag
01:07:16
@Wendy - Kandace shared a link to our form
Jennifer Kienzle
01:07:25
Total side question but does anyone use Starfish as an early alert system? If so, I’d love to ping you.
James Glapa-Grossklag
01:08:06
@Jim We ask instructors to get permission from students if they want to share the recording, either with the current class or a future class
Kandace Knudson
01:08:14
@Jennifer yes, we are up and running for our first-year experience cohort
Jim Julius
01:08:52
Thanks, @James. I think it is unusual to require permission for sharing with current class. Has that posed any challenges for faculty?
Brandon Gainer
01:09:15
@James - if the class does require a demonstration/activity that requires a camera on (e.g. a presentation) where did you college land on that?
Kandace Knudson
01:09:49
https://www.dvc.edu/communication/policies/student-rights/academic-integrity.html#:~:text=Academic%20dishonesty%20is%20a%20violation,students%20who%20conduct%20themselves%20honestly.
Kandace Knudson
01:10:16
Authentic assessment video: https://4cd.zoom.us/rec/play/fGaE-RLoTaZYRKxVnXOAwjteSmoyREfFe4IiYS0Xv7tt02GlhzIxmHnfeNW8AP1PFt55QvGgOpVLk77U.YnaEMt0n38sqXKQR?continueMode=true
Kandace Knudson
01:10:42
Academic integrity forum: https://4cd.zoom.us/rec/share/vrFDkHFu6S42WFdwCozc0Lqa6q7ELGuka-nn-K2K0s3p9HAL8XhGSIth88OUjJvE.tef24o1ZGAvKLAR3
James Glapa-Grossklag
01:10:42
@Brandon - in an ideal world, for a pubic speaking or performance class, e.g., we ask instructors to get permission at the start of the semester. Also, we ask instructors to inform students in their orientation letters that a camera will be needed and class sessions will be recorded
Kandace Knudson
01:11:06
Syllabus: https://dvc.instructure.com/courses/42101/pages/add-language-to-your-syllabus-including-alternatives?module_item_id=939290
Brandon Gainer
01:11:34
@James - Thank you! The key, then, seems to be both making it transparent in the syllabus and course notes.
juliebrown
01:11:39
Last link requires a password!
Kandace Knudson
01:12:03
Oops. Sorry. Perhaps Joanna or Anne can access that and share in another way.
James Glapa-Grossklag
01:12:09
@Brandon - yes, the principle of informed consent
Maritez Apigo
01:12:38
We at Contra Costa College are still drafting our guidance on online proctoring and are including suggested alternative authentic assessments in it, specifically for math and sciences. I am sharing three helpful links we are including in it. 

@ONE Authentic Assessments Guide: https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/pocket-pd-guides/authentic-assessments/ 

UC Davis’s Keep Teaching resource on “Testing”: https://keepteaching.ucdavis.edu/test

Project-Based Learning https://www.pblworks.org/what-is-pbl
CCC DECO
01:12:43
file:///Users/jmill872/Downloads/DVC_Camera-optional_Recommendation.pdf
Sabrina Lawrence
01:13:37
What was the 4dc memo? I think it was a guidance memo for synchronous learning.
Sabrina Lawrence
01:13:42
4cd
Tammara Whitaker
01:13:48
the DVC camera optional recommendation link does not work
Mike Smedshammer
01:14:44
ty @Maritez and all :)
Nick DeMello
01:14:52
(it’s a local file address)
Treisa Cassens
01:14:55
at Cypress some of the accreditation groups for health science are requiring proctorio specifically
Anne Kingsley
01:15:13
Try this one for DVC : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Rcdvv4phtWAhYVNijdspFdSRuPo4dNhhmh5NuDoY3BQ/edit?usp=sharing
Nick DeMello
01:15:27
that works
Anne Kingsley
01:15:33
and Camera Optional Recommendation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1StCJU_pgMwYxGuVBecRFVsYF3tETuIhNtDdHyPusGQY/edit?usp=sharing
James Glapa-Grossklag
01:15:52
Thanks everyone!
Treisa Cassens
01:16:08
thanks all - some great information today!! much appreciated!
Melvin Cobb
01:16:10
Thanks all!
Jim Julius
01:16:22
Does everyone know that Canvas will be forcing us all to the new Rich Content Editor in January? I confirmed that yesterday at CanvasCon
Betsy Allen
01:16:24
Great meeting. Thank you!
Walsh LAVC
01:16:34
Very informative meeting. Thank you.
Robin Kurotori
01:16:41
This was extremely helpful as we are in the process of getting our guidance adopted by the Faculty Senate. Thank you all for sharing your resources so generously.
Audrey Blumeneau
01:16:41
Terrific information! Thank you to James, Wendy and Anne!
Ingrid Greenberg
01:16:42
Thanks! Very helpful resources for online teaching guidelines
mrooney
01:16:48
Thank you!
Kathy
01:16:54
Thank you!
Pamela Huntington
01:16:55
@Jim--- actually I've been using the new RCE and it's great!
Maritez Apigo
01:16:58
Yes, they are Jim.
Nick DeMello
01:17:13
can use a waiting room, zoom will not require passwords and waiting room works fine (and can be temporary disabled at start of meeting for casual entry)
Bridget Hoida
01:17:28
Such a wealth of resources, thank you!
Moses Wolfenstein
01:17:33
I’m a fan
Pamela Huntington
01:17:47
All the features are the same--the are just relocated.
Brett Myhren
01:17:51
Thanks, everyone! Great resources!
Senya Lubisich (she/her)
01:18:08
Thank you...this was a very helpful meeting!
CCC DECO
01:18:28
Thanks for coming everyone! Next month Professional Development!
Jim Julius
01:18:30
https://community.canvaslms.com/t5/The-Canvas-tl-dr/RCE-Updates-Summer-2020/ba-p/276684 was a good article about the new RCE’s limitations as of this summer