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Show me the numbers. How are colleges collecting and using data on LGBTQ+ students? - Shared screen with speaker view
Steven Deineh
18:31
Comment for discussion at some point: why are we seeing this information “protected” or treated differently than *any other protected statuses in the State of California*. Why aren’t we similarly “protecting” veterans status, disability statues, ethnic/race data…
Betty Glyer Culver
20:21
To add to Steven's comment the process to export this data is almost impossible especially for large districts. I understand that the data is considered sensitive but could the RP Group advocate to revisit the current process so research is able to access the data without the CCCReport center interface.
Rajinder Samra
21:25
Hi everyone,
Brad Trimble
22:05
For those who joined late, we’re asking participants to identify their name, role and institution to best understand who’s in the room today. Thank you!
Cynthia
22:44
This is Cynthia Gordon da Cruz, Coordinator of Institutional Research at Chabot.
TeriAnn
23:08
Teri Ann Bengiveno, Las Positas College. Facuty & Queer Straight Alliance Faculty advisor.
olyles
23:17
Olivia Lyles, Research Analyst, Office of Institutional Research and Planning at Las Positas College
Jaime Seiverd
23:17
Hi, all! I am Jaime Seiverd (they/them/theirs) and I am a research and planning analyst with the SDCCD.
elle
23:24
elle dimopoulos, accessibility and equity, college of marin
Jennifer Coleman
23:29
Jennifer Coleman, Program Director at the CCC Technology Center.
ruth.ramirezruiz
23:38
Hi everyone, this is Ruth, Maryam, Diana, Rachel from Grossmont College we are the Admissions and Records Assistant Sr team
Jennifer Coleman
23:57
An upgrade is in process for the CCC Report Center and will be announced in the next few weeks.
Michael Quiaoit
24:03
Michael Quiaoit, Dean - Educational Services, Chancellor's Office
brandon.owashi
24:08
Brandon Owashi, Director of Institutional Research, Riverside City College
Debbie
24:17
Hello,Debbie Whitaker, HereALLY Co-Coordinator at Riverside City College
Barbara Lezon
25:13
Barbara Lezon - Specialist supporting Student Equity and Achievement Program - Chancellor's Office
Rajinder Samra
25:24
In reviewing the CCCApply data dictionary, it looks like only students 19 or older are allowed to respond to items for Transgender and Sexual Orientation. The data dictionary cites AB620 implementation requirements.
Craig H.
25:46
That's true.
Steven Deineh
26:11
Rajinder, I think this was pointed out at the end of the LGBTQ summit as problematic. The 19+ issue.
Rajinder Samra
26:31
Rajinder Samra, Director of Research, Planning and Institutional Effectiveness @ Las Positas College.
Dean De Mucha Flores
26:40
Martin De Mucha Flores , Dean Educational Success and Equity
Emilie Mitchell
26:51
Rajinder - This was a mistake data dictionary. Students over the age of 18 will see the questions. That being said, there is no mechanism to resurvey students after their initial application. In our district (Betty correct me if I am wrong) results in only about 50% of students ever see the questions.
Steven Deineh
31:03
Agreed. This is their system as much - if not more - than it is ours as employees.
Emilie Mitchell
31:30
Evaluating how we ask these questions is one of the most important parts of this conversation and presentation.
brian.miller
31:40
Brian Miller, Dean at Mission College and LGBTQIA+ Allies Coordinator
Steven Deineh
32:58
Which is why we need local surveys that occur semesterly… so that students can re-report from semester to semester.
Craig H.
33:03
BTW, I don't think that excluding minors from seeing the question is in the law. That was a determination made at the level of CCCApply governance.
Steven Deineh
33:07
CCCApply one-time application is very limiting.
ruth.ramirezruiz
33:14
To better support students where should preffered name vs legal name be used? Where do students face the biggest challenges in using their prefered name?
Brad Trimble
34:30
Link to today’s webinar evaluation: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/RP_LGBTQ_Data_Webinar_Eval
Jaime Seiverd
35:21
In our new system we have a preferred name field, which is wonderful. From experience, I would agree that the classroom is the most challenging place for students to have their preffered name and correct pronouns used.
Steven Deineh
36:13
Yes! Local surveys, pre-enrollment required surveys every semester.
Craig H.
36:14
66027. (a) (1) The...governing board of each community college district are requested to, in collecting data relative to gender, race, ethnicity, or other demographics, from faculty, staff, or students, allow the faculty, staff, and students to identify their sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression on any forms used to collect that demographic data, as appropriate.(2) A governing board shall not be required to update an existing form used to collect demographic data for purposes of this subdivision, but shall provide for the identification of sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression on any new or updated form used for the collection of demographic data.
elle
37:34
Speaking both for myself and some of the feedback I receive from students is that folkx can tell if a survey has been written with support and input from the community. If they see language that doesn’t speak to them and their lived experience then they are much more likely to decline to state.
Craig H.
37:37
No restriction on age of those reporting in the law. The idea is that as forms that collect demographic data are updated, they will allow respondents to "identify their sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression"
Debbie
39:00
Once a student fills out CCC Apply submission, what other time would a student be asked any LGBTQ+ related questions? A first semester student might not be willing to provide information, but would be willing in a later semester. If students learned that data updates also changes funding to support such equity groups.
Jaime Seiverd
39:03
I agree, Elle! I am leading a comprehensive project on LGBTQ+ student experiences in our district, and am conducting focus groups before creating a survey to ensure I am not relying on my own experiences as an LGBTQ+ student and am allowing the students to inform future research on this in our district.
Erik @ Sierra
44:45
Brad's talking about Sierra
Steven Deineh
45:05
Rhonda Mohr
Steven Deineh
45:07
:-D
Emilie Mitchell
47:41
I think one problem with only local data collection is that then the CCCCO is less aware of the findings
Craig H.
47:47
Would a research office potentially get in hot water for releasing individually identifying information to campus personnel who would like to do outreach to members of the LGBTQ community? What is the guidance on that?
Emilie Mitchell
48:02
sorry to many Cs :)
Steven Deineh
48:29
Is there a method for sending our local data up to Sacramento!?
Betty Glyer Culver
48:33
Craig our A&R teams said we should not release individual information from the app.
Emilie Mitchell
48:41
Also, let us not forget that this data is then being used for decisions around funding and disproportionate impact.
Erik @ Sierra
49:04
As a couple of folks noted, we're adding the option to change demographic fields within the pre-registration questionnaire. It's the same place where we ask folks to identify VTEA categories, but in this case we're running it as a please review your data. However, not sure how the data would go to MIS or whether it should
Steven Deineh
49:53
Yes, required.
Jaime Seiverd
50:13
Hi, Craig! I agree with Betty. I am collaborating with faculty gatekeepers to LGBTQ+ clubs etc. for these projects to ensure we are protecting our students and not contacting them based on private and sensitive information.
Jon Newnam
50:29
I am confused. Wasn't Emilie referring just to the transgender community at 14%, whereas Brad referred to the entire LGBTQ+ community at 15%?
Terrence Willett
51:04
I get concerned about underreporting and people thinking we have fewer LGBTQ+ than we actually have, probably good to caveat the data when presented, but because of that, I've not used those data as much as perhaps I could or should
Brad Trimble
51:18
Jon, my research was campus climate related reaching all students at Sierra
Steven Deineh
52:30
Is there a method for sending our local data up to Sacramento!?
Steven Deineh
52:52
Our local LGBTQ data.
Steven Deineh
53:45
Awesome!! Yes!
Steven Deineh
53:56
Glad to know my local data is making its way to Chancellor’s Office.
Craig H.
54:13
Jaime, can you elaborate on how you are collaborating to support work with the LGBTQ community while not using the data from CCCApply? Are you running a separate survey?
Jaime Seiverd
54:39
I need to call in! Sorry I do not have a mic.
Jaime Seiverd
54:44
Or I can type it out :)
Jaime Seiverd
57:09
I am contacting the gatekeepers to LGBTQ+ clubs and the ASG on our campuses to connect to these students. This is for focus group recruitment, and will inform our surveys going forward. We also have task forces and committees at our colleges that I am able to go to to reach students and ensure we protect their confidentiality. This has taken a year of groundwork on my part, but it is very important to me that we do this right and construct our surveys appropriately.
Jaime Seiverd
57:21
My district also only recently moved to CCCApply, so we do not have it.
Jaime Seiverd
57:45
Also, my name is Jay-Me phonetically and my pronouns are they/them. Thanks! :)
Craig H.
58:20
Thanks, Jaime!
Brad Trimble
58:40
Link to today’s webinar evaluation: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/RP_LGBTQ_Data_Webinar_Eval
Dean De Mucha Flores
01:00:49
I am interested in hearing more about the intersectionality of sexuality, gender and race. They are often talked about separately of eachother. Thanks for the information
Barbara Lezon
01:00:57
Thank you! Great info.
Jaime Seiverd
01:00:58
Thanks, everyone! This was awesome!
Betty Glyer Culver
01:01:10
thank you!
Maddy Stute
01:01:13
Thank you!
Steven Deineh
01:01:14
THANK YOU!!! This was great! I’m so glad this is finally being widely discussed.
Todd Hoig
01:01:17
Thank you!
Erik @ Sierra
01:01:30
thx
Steven Deineh
01:01:31
Yes! To echo Dean’s comments...
Steven Deineh
01:01:39
Conversations about queer people are conversations about students of color.
Emilie Mitchell
01:01:41
Thank you to everyone!
Steven Deineh
01:01:52
Intersectionality needs to be more often and widely considered.
luis.flores
01:01:57
There's an LGTBQ listserv, also, as an avenue to continue these discussions.
Jaime Seiverd
01:02:03
I agree, Dean! Intersectionality is informing my focus group questions. We can only learn so much if we stick human experiences into neat little boxes.
Emilie Mitchell
01:02:04
@steven and dean - cant applaud loudly enough!!
Jaime Seiverd
01:02:11
How do we get on the listserv?
Steven Deineh
01:02:20
https://www.ccclgbt.org/ccc-lgbtq-listserv.html
Jaime Seiverd
01:02:24
Thank you!!!!!
Steven Deineh
01:02:25
Listserv sign up is there
Cynthia
01:02:25
I'm curious about not using "other" on surveys. I see how the choices: male, female, other would be offensive and definitely would not put that on a survey. However, I struggle with the other point made on the call in that even if I ask community members what terminology to use, I may not get every term down that students identify with. So let's say I have: male, female, gender nonbinary, transgender, and genderqueer as options on a survey, but I want to somehow capture and acknowledge the identiities that I haven't named. What is the respectful way to create that box?