“If described in the course outline of record or distance education addendum”

“as described in the course outline of record or distance education addendum” - wouldn’t that assure that we keep student-to-student?

So, if the COR doesn't specify student-student interaction, then instructors don't need it? We've not included it because I thought it was assumed. Or do we need to add it to the COR?

If the edit includes "course outline of record," does that mean colleges need to update all DE CORs?

We have a requirement in our DE Addenda

We do on the addendum but not the COR

Suzanne, that's my concern too. Most of our COR do not indicate this information, but we have it in the addenda.

“as” would keep it as a requirement in either the COR or DE Addendum

Is the addenda considered to be an extension of the COR?

That’s why DECO suggested adding “or DE addendum”

@Jim, that would be better.

But even adding it to the addendum is tricky. Our addendum asks that but quotes title 5 as the reason for the question. That becomes super circular...

Yes

Agreed - DE addendum is more appropriate - please

"if described in the course outline of record or distance education addendum"

student to student interaction would be different in a competency based course. Putting it in the COR would allow you to shift based on type of course.

Do we anticipate guidelines from the CCCCO to accompany title 5?

Jodie, Erin has indicated that the CCCCO has disavowed issuing guidelines

So we are basically saying "if you feel like having students interact"? So, why have it at all? [Agree that some courses don't need it, but if we leave it wide open, then there's no reason for it].

My concern here is that there are many faculty who can but simply don’t want to

collaboration is one of the soft-skills our students will need for 21st century employment.

@Moses - yes. It becomes totally optional (which is silly for a regulation).

@Moses, yes at GCC too!

@Jim "Disavowed?"

CBE and courses serving incarcerated students create challenges for student-student interaction.

Yes, the incarcerated issue is huge

Those are good examples, Bob -- we need some flexibility.

Student-to-Student can be discussion of practices used on - for example - your previous welding site

I think I’m not the only one who feels that the Federal guidelines were seriously watered down

Suggestion: Edit with "if", "...if described in the COR." This allows colleges/faculty agency.

Ingrid, that is the suggestion from DECO.

Yes, Ingrid. It allows for more local control.

Bob’s examples are important, too.

https://www.cccco.edu/Students/Support-Services/Special-population/Undocumented-Students/Undocumented-Student-Action-Week

Can or should the COR be neutral as to modality?

Bob’s examples are important. CBE confers credit for past experience, yes? So we wouldn’t be able to retroactively impose requirements. Am I wrong?

It seems like the problem with “as” is that it implies that colleges already specify this interaction in their COR, but that may not be the case.

Piper, no, credit for past experience is different from CBE

Thanks, Jim

CBE is generally self-paced, highly individualized

Self-paced - is that similar to correspondence?

Yes, credit for prior learning (CPL) is different

Thanks, Bob!

Piper, no, there is extensive student-instructor interaction

Got it. Thank you for those clarifications

CBE requires assessment, but a student who has mastery from prior learning can move directly to assessment

@Erin, who did you say is looking into the lab issue?

@Pamela - Vice Chancellor Lowe

Thank you, Erin

That would be helpful. Thanks Erin.

Thank you Erin!😄

Here is the link for the Chancellor’s Office webinar about Competency-Based Education (Oct 6). https://www.3cmediasolutions.org/privid/355389?key=e92e1cb86ee5657edf8d479c33ab1461083f667f

thank you!

thank you!

Thanks Michelle

You’re welcome. 🙂

But POCR certified courses will have a badge on it, correct?

Do POCR-certified courses have any kind of "advantage?"

@Jennifer, yes. I will explain more in a minute :)

@Andrea, thanks!

And now ZTC POCR badged courses will be most privileged in a search, I think (?)

Is it the course married to the instructor who aligned the course that gets the badge?

Lol

I feel like I'm married to my classes...

Dude...@Suzanne...indeed...

I am concerned that sometimes course sections that are not aligned to the rubric are showing up on the Exchange with the Quality Reviewed badge.

Thank you for clarifying that.

What if the course was aligned and became ZTC after CVC awarded the badge?

ahanstein@cvc.edu

Yes, sometimes it seems like none of the sections that show up have a badge after clicking on the course where there was a badge displayed

Do the course with Quality Reviewed badges have better enrollment in the Exchange?

@Carol, the ZTC data will be pulled automatically from each college SIS, so that badge will appear “automagically” regardless of timing

Rebecca has a great question re: enrollment data

@Rebecca, we are gathering that data to understand that. More to come...

We do have some data to show today

Thanks Jory!

Thank you, Jory. The data will help with the promotion of the POCR review process.

That would be GREAT!

I’m curious on how colleges are navigating the demand for synchronous only and how that is influencing online training

So just to clarify - when you say home college courses will show first, that's based on what the student selects as their primary college, correct. If the student skips that or chooses no primary college what is showed first?

So, the other badges do not influence how the course appears in search, right?

Only quality review has an impact?

I wish the quality reviewed badge was bigger or more prominent. It often looks like one of many and it is easy to miss.

I think the difference between the badges may need to be clearer to students - like, seeing all these badges, students may not understand which are quality reviewed or not.

@Carol, yes

@Anna - correct, the primary/home college a student selects influences which courses show at the very top of the search results

Does the OEI Consortium badge mean anything to students?

+1 to Cynthia's comment

Agree, Scott and Cynthia. Can we verify these are really meaningful to students.

@Brett - the other badges DO influence the search result sort, but the Quality Reviewed badge carries more weight.

As I understand it all badges have importance and cause the course to rise in the listing, but the quality review badge is the most important and will cause the course to rise higher.

Got it. Thanks, Jory!

We understand the difference between synchronous and asynchronous courses, but I'm not sure if students understand the difference. Can we add an explanation to it?

Note to folks, I just realized MiraCosta courses weren’t showing up with the Online Readiness badge - it literally just took a quick email to support@cvc.edu to explain the readiness workshops we offer to get that badge added.

@Cynthia - this was some of the feedback we recently received from a focus group conducted by the Student Centered Design Lab. Part of the work Jamie’s group is doing currently is to help clarify the badging so it speaks more clearly to students.

Good to know Jory.

Awesome. Yes, good to know.

+1 to Rebecca, plus I imagine each college has a different way of designating what is synchronous vs. asynchronous (100% on Zoom for synchronous?)

We are considering going with the term "Live Online" instead of "synchronous" as it seems less cumbersome.

@Toni-- I like that idea =)

@Rebecca Agree, at least an idea of what to expect.

@Kristi: @ONE's idea but we are thinking of borrowing it. ; )

@Toni - YES. We need a common system-wide term for synchronous. One of the issues we know about but if everyone’s not using it consistently…

This was very informative.

+1 Jory!

@jory - right! I wish the term was decided for us. HaHa!

We will share the PPT with Jim to send out to everyone so you can look at the data on your own.

We use “scheduled online” rather than “synchronous”

We use "scheduled Zoom" for synchronous courses.

DECO will post the slides (including the CVC slides) to the cccdeco.org website.

And will include in a meeting follow-up email.

Thanks!

This is all super exciting!

You all are amazing, as always.

Super helpful! Thank you.

@Angela I think so, too!

Have a wonderful weekend everyone!

Thanks everybody!

Thank you!

Thank you everyone!

Thanks everyone!

https://survey.alchemer.com/s3/6479770/Survey-of-Priorities-for-DECO-Monthly-Online-Meeting-Topics

Thank you!

Thank you all.

Thanks all!!

thank you!