00:15:01 Rhiannon Lares: http://cccdeco.org/resources/ccc-de-coordinators-monthly-meetings-links/ 00:20:10 Jim Julius: Where these changes create greater distance between “regular and substantive interaction” and “regular effective contact” is there likely to be a revisiting of California Title 5 regs? Or will the California regs likely override for us these federal changes? 00:21:00 Jim Julius: (Not looking for a definitive response to that, just curious if it has been discussed or if anyone has any particular thoughts) 00:21:54 Dr. Alexa Schumacher, Ph.D: Can we reopen the Survey and make some edits? 00:22:30 Erin Larson: Student Survey: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mf1Z3R87SoeDDZ522AG6AU0K47I4ezlpK3HVXp_LhKE/edit?usp=sharing Faculty Survey: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U7mH9cWm1kk8IA952Y33PMBRXtfD8mzEu678xEP_oOE/edit?usp=sharing 00:31:25 skincade232: Pfeiffer is not muted 00:31:29 Carol Reitan: Is “assessment” universally understood by students? 00:33:24 Cynthia Wilshusen: how do campuses deal with dsps accommodations 00:33:45 Lisa Sayles: For the 4th options it might be helpful to expand to "online with flexible assessment or activity" to include service learning, etc. 00:33:45 pfeiffer: I am muted on my end 00:33:51 Meghan Chen: "exam" may be a more commonly understood word. 00:35:13 Cheryl Chapman: @Cynthia…do you mean dsps for the proctored assessments? 00:35:54 Cheryl Chapman: Proctored Exams - as what Jim described is an activity 00:35:57 Marie Vicario-Fisher: I agree. Also what about field trips? 00:36:08 Suzanne Wakim: Maybe online with "proctored activities" - since I can collect rocks on my own, but proctoring requires some scheduling with others 00:38:40 Marie Vicario-Fisher: Thank you for clarification 00:39:31 Chelsea Cohen: I think fully online classes can also have activities that take place out of the home … I think that should be up to the instructor. 00:39:53 Carol Impara: I don’t agree with the definition that online must be only inside in your pajamas. I agree that fully online classes can have field trips. 00:40:03 Jim Julius: I’m still confused 00:40:08 Linda Delzeit-McIntyre: If a class required synchronous instruction but that is fully online, would it fall into the fully online or into the proctored category? 00:40:12 Marie Vicario-Fisher: So if you require a field trip, it would not be scheduled to qualify as a fully online course? 00:40:33 Tracy Schaelen: I like Joanna's "in-person requirement" phrasing for the thrid category--it sounds like a more accurate label than "proctored assessment" 00:41:17 Carol Reitan: We’ve had issues with students that have various conditions (physical and mental) that don’t allow them to leave home. When there are requirements to leave their location, we’ve worked with DSPS to provide accommodations. 00:41:58 Suzanne Wakim: Maybe - A fully online class is one where students don't have to be at any particular place 00:42:06 Jim Julius: Still confused 00:42:12 Chelsea Cohen: Sure, there could be exceptions and other arrangements. 00:42:19 Brett Myhren: Are we saying that assignments are not part of contact hours? 00:42:38 Jim Julius: What are the key factors that students need to understand to distinguish the types of online class requirements? 00:42:42 Audrey Blumeneau: fully online: stay at home; never leave home vs. fully online with outside activities (such as museum or theatre performance that they will be assessed on… 00:42:49 Chloe McGinley: Maybe removing the "100% online" part would help, leaving it as "No requirements for on-gound meetings or proctoring" 00:43:01 Cynthia Wilshusen: @cheryl. yes I was just in a meeting with our DSPS director and Assessment trying to understand how to ensure students with DSPS Accommodations. looking for clarity on what services are provided and verified I get what they need (scribe, reader, brain) 00:43:02 Vivie: fully online = no physical meetings? There may be synchronous "meetings", but are convenient.... 00:43:42 Anne Kingsley: I thought the statement that was said “no requirements for SYNCHRONOUS on-ground meetings or proctoring” was clear…I think the “stay in your pajamas statements” are the things that aren’t clear. 00:44:32 Brett Myhren: Could students find some of this more granular information on the syllabus? 00:44:51 Chelsea Cohen: That would make sense, Brett 00:45:02 Brandon Gainer: That or the course footnotes in a college's catalog: It's that way with my online Public Speaking class. 00:45:08 Michelle Pacansky-Brock: Has there been research done to see what language other systems are using in their definitions? 00:45:15 Jim Julius: The intent is to be clear from a student point of view, not a teaching/faculty/curriculum point of view, correct? 00:45:49 Jim Julius: Would be awesome to have input from a variety of students if so. 00:46:00 Brett Myhren: Agree, Jim. We want students to understand and be clear about requirements. 00:46:15 Cheryl Chapman: My audio went….I was going to ask about student’s perspective about what is actually in the schedule to decide if they needed to go to campus or not :0) 00:46:34 Meghan Chen: I agree, Jim. We need to hear from students. 00:46:59 Jim Julius: Agree, Cheryl. To me it seems fairly straightforward (but I would like to get students’ perspective). Course is online and 00:47:07 Jim Julius: (a) there are some on-campus activities required 00:47:11 Vivie: Bob - Could you send the link to the DECoords list, as well? 00:47:13 Tracy Schaelen: What both Michelle and Jim are asking about will take more time, but I think we may need to take more time to ensure we get it right. 00:47:14 Carol Reitan: Has anyone used Quest for new /prospective online teachers? 00:47:19 Jim Julius: (b) there are no outside-the-home requirements 00:47:26 jmill872: Thank you so much everyone! I apologize for any confusion over assignments and homework vs. instructional hours. And @Brett you are so right. All of this is to try to determine what is most clear for students! Keep the questions and statements coming! 00:47:30 Jim Julius: (c) there are flexible outside-the-home local requirements 00:47:42 Matthew Moore: I would like to say that we need to make sure that when a student is signing up for a class that we are clearly stating all activities that a student is involved in whether those be tests, field trips, labs, etc. 00:47:51 Vivie: Thanks! 00:48:09 Matthew Moore: sorry there was not enought time to respond to Joanna. 00:49:00 Patrick B: Is there a particular format in which CVC-OEI would like the expected outcomes and their indicators expressed? 00:49:04 CCC DECO: @Matthew - yes, we appreciate all the comments and questions! 00:49:16 Erin Larson: @Matthew That is exactly what the student reps on DEETAC said. 00:50:18 Bob Nash: SmarterMeasure+Quest Webinar on April 24, 12 noon, at Zoom: https://cccconfer.zoom.us/j/9448929911 00:50:52 Matthew Moore: thanks, I am glad that they are being heard 00:53:28 Lisa Sayles: Does anyone know if/when there is going to be a call for colleges to join the Consortium for the 19/20 academic year? 00:53:37 Cynthia Wilshusen: on the budget are indirect costs allowed to be included?? 00:54:04 Chelsea Cohen: Lisa, I’ve been told that letters of intent to join will be due in June, self-assessments will be due in December 00:54:27 Christina Lee: What can be included in supplies and materials for the budget? Fore example, we are using our own laptops, current supplies, so can we include .5% of total cost for general supplies and materials? 00:55:19 Christina Lee: Or can we purchase laptops as part of supplies/materials? 00:55:57 Audrey Blumeneau: @Lisa and @Chelsea, I was wondering that also! If they are DUE in June, when or did the Letter of Intent to Join the 19/20 Consortium, already get sent out? Who is sending out this Letter of Intent? 00:56:50 Chelsea Cohen: I spoke with Kate Jordahl last week. I don’t think this info has been officially announced yet, though 00:57:43 Audrey Blumeneau: @Chelsea, Thank you! Good to know. 00:58:00 Chelsea Cohen: @Audrey, you’re welcome :) 01:00:08 Lisa Sayles: @Chelsea, Thank you very much! 01:07:10 Cheryl Chapman: How it was communicated in the schedule is key 01:07:29 Jim Julius: I think for a lot of colleges there will be a direct connection between implementing the new guidelines and what that means in our schedule 01:07:33 steveperry1: YEs, everything needs to be clear to the student when they are registering 01:08:24 Jim Julius: But if that is not the intent, if the DE Guidelines DE class types is supposed to be distinct from student-facing communication, then I think that too needs to be really clear and spelled out in the new DE Guidelines 01:10:27 Tracy Schaelen: Having specific timelines would really help campuses plan. 01:10:43 Audrey Blumeneau: I would really appreciate that timeline to let my AS know what’s going on! Thanks so much! 01:10:44 Chelsea Cohen: I agree! 01:13:39 Matthew Moore: I think students are more concerned about what they actually sign up for (side note). The expectations need to be clearly defined prior to the first day of class. 01:13:54 Matthew Moore: same to you 01:13:59 Carol Hobson: Happy Easter 01:14:11 Matthew Moore: thanks 01:14:12 Brett Myhren: Thanks! 01:14:12 Audrey Blumeneau: Thanks! 01:14:13 Carol Reitan: Thank y ou. 01:14:13 Jim Julius: Thanks Lisa and all DECO folk! 01:14:16 Sharon Oxford: Thank you