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Open Educational Resources Initiative (OERI) - Shared screen with speaker view
Andrew Park
02:38
I can hear you. :)
Andrew Park
02:40
And see.
Sarah Bosler
02:48
Hello - I can hear you
Junie Hayashi
02:50
Yes, I can hear
Ben
02:53
I can hear you!
Tahmina Morshed
03:21
I can see you and hear you Amber! This is Tahmina!
Idhalama Ogagaoghene
04:37
I can hear you
Sarah Bosler
12:46
If someone wants to make edits that are unique to their campus, can they save a local version to provide to students?
Aaron Pankratz
13:44
That's a good question. OER resources are meant to be adjustable. It depends on the book in terms of how it can be "saved." I'll have to look into that.
Aaron Pankratz
14:14
If anyone else knows that specific answer, let us know.
Sarah Bosler
17:20
ok thanks.
Ishita Edwards
17:46
Earlier this month I learned that Knewton (Alta)'s graphing section for Economics has not yet been developed. How do you handle this? Knewton is $40 per course. I use Aplia homework sets with a standard publisher text (Cengage) for $50 with free digital textbook, and it has a very good graphing section. That is the reason why I haven't changed to OpenStax plus Knewton. I've also heard complaints about the quality of the test bank. What is your experience?
Aaron Pankratz
18:49
With Knewton, they do indeed have good graphing questions. The graphing component went live this past Fall.
Aaron Pankratz
19:27
I used to use Aplia as well, and the graphing looked a bit nicer on Aplia, but I really like the adaptive nature of Knewton. I'll try and talk about that a bit here.
Ishita Edwards
23:44
I spent quite a bit of time seriously reviewing Knewton. I just didn't like the quality of their problems and the graphing section was not useful. They promised to improve that section. But that hasn't happened yet. Aplia is much better.
Tahmina Morshed
24:34
I use Cengage Publishers with MindTap option. My students really like $120.00 Cengage Unlimited option.
Ishita Edwards
27:23
But Mark Maier from Glendale Community College has a group working on compiling OER Econ resources. Some had used CORE, Perusall etc. We also incorporated FRED's graphing exercises into their lessons. I haven't changed to any of these, but am seriously considering these.
Tahmina Morshed
30:13
In recent semesters I think Cengage Unlimited has become more popular Aaron. Fall Term 2019 Openstax is partnering with Cengage Publishers.
Aaron Pankratz
30:30
Regarding the graphing in Knewton, I'd agree that I like Aplia a bit better, but the question for me was do I like it 3 times better in terms of cost to my students. So there are some ways in which Aplia is better, and some in which Knewton is better. For 1/3 of the cost, I chose Knewton/OpenStax. But I know that it may not be the best choice for everyone.
Ishita Edwards
32:45
Cengage's Aplia (Mindtap) with the standards McEachern textbook, and a good test bank, is available with the free digital textbook for $50 and with the print and digital textbook for $80. That's not too much more expensive compared to OpenStax.
Aaron Pankratz
34:33
That's a very good price. What is the textbook name?
Ishita Edwards
35:40
I supplement the Aplia homework system with my own additional weekly assignments. But I would like to know more about these inexpensive resources.
Tahmina Morshed
35:54
Amber, those Cengage problems you just mentioned, I don't think exists anymore. I have been using Cengage products for my students now for the last 7 years without any major issues!
Ishita Edwards
38:03
Will you be making available the slides that you are using in this session for us to look over and review after this session has ended?
Sarah Bosler
38:16
no. these look great!
Sarah Bosler
38:24
Can perusall be used with other subject areas too?
Tahmina Morshed
38:47
Great idea for "Pan Open".
Sarah Bosler
39:30
Is the "offical" threshold for low cost under $40?
Aaron Pankratz
39:52
That's my understanding, yes, under $40/semester.
Sarah Bosler
39:52
yes
Ishita Edwards
40:15
Understanding graphs is very important for my students at Oxnard and Moorpark colleges.
Andrew Park
40:37
Homework system requirements: For a new instructor, a large, quality problem bank helps. Otherwise you need to put in a huge amount of time to make it useful.
Ishita Edwards
40:39
Also, using and data is important.
Sarah Bosler
40:55
<$40 ok, for the entire course, right, not just per resource?
Ishita Edwards
41:05
Each college determines what they would like to consider as low cost.
Tahmina Morshed
41:07
I agree Ishita with you, understnading graphs.
Aaron Pankratz
41:15
Yes, for the entire course (<$40).
Sarah Bosler
41:15
Got it.
Caroline Kaba
41:22
$40 per semester is the threshold at GCC
Ishita Edwards
41:24
Videos are great.
Tahmina Morshed
41:35
Yes, videos, and discussions are important Amber.
Ishita Edwards
41:53
Anything that engages students and gets them learning on their own - would really help.
Ishita Edwards
44:26
There is an ongoing national (extending to Canada) on the appropriate threshold for low cost text. Most agree on $40, but some have suggested $50 as the appropriate marker for STEM courses, including Econ.
Ishita Edwards
45:01
Do any of you have Statistics for Economics as a lower division course option?
Aaron Pankratz
46:06
We don't have Stats for Econ. For us, that would be an upper-division class that a student would take at a 4-year school (eventually Econometrics).
Idhalama Ogagaoghene
46:07
very very nice session
Ishita Edwards
46:37
A faculty from Oxnard College is involved with the development of OpenMath, but I didn't find it useful for Econ. Great for Math, though.
Andrew Park
47:05
Yap. Very well developed for Math, and some new Chem and Physics people there now, too. No econ-specific material yet.
Junie Hayashi
47:26
Thank you for an informative session!
Ishita Edwards
47:26
Thank you very much Amber and Aaron!
Andrew Park
47:58
Thank you so much, Amber and Aaron!