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If someone wants to make edits that are unique to their campus, can they save a local version to provide to students?
That's a good question. OER resources are meant to be adjustable. It depends on the book in terms of how it can be "saved." I'll have to look into that.
If anyone else knows that specific answer, let us know.
Earlier this month I learned that Knewton (Alta)'s graphing section for Economics has not yet been developed. How do you handle this? Knewton is $40 per course. I use Aplia homework sets with a standard publisher text (Cengage) for $50 with free digital textbook, and it has a very good graphing section. That is the reason why I haven't changed to OpenStax plus Knewton. I've also heard complaints about the quality of the test bank. What is your experience?
With Knewton, they do indeed have good graphing questions. The graphing component went live this past Fall.
I used to use Aplia as well, and the graphing looked a bit nicer on Aplia, but I really like the adaptive nature of Knewton. I'll try and talk about that a bit here.
I spent quite a bit of time seriously reviewing Knewton. I just didn't like the quality of their problems and the graphing section was not useful. They promised to improve that section. But that hasn't happened yet. Aplia is much better.
I use Cengage Publishers with MindTap option. My students really like $120.00 Cengage Unlimited option.
But Mark Maier from Glendale Community College has a group working on compiling OER Econ resources. Some had used CORE, Perusall etc. We also incorporated FRED's graphing exercises into their lessons. I haven't changed to any of these, but am seriously considering these.
In recent semesters I think Cengage Unlimited has become more popular Aaron. Fall Term 2019 Openstax is partnering with Cengage Publishers.
Regarding the graphing in Knewton, I'd agree that I like Aplia a bit better, but the question for me was do I like it 3 times better in terms of cost to my students. So there are some ways in which Aplia is better, and some in which Knewton is better. For 1/3 of the cost, I chose Knewton/OpenStax. But I know that it may not be the best choice for everyone.
Cengage's Aplia (Mindtap) with the standards McEachern textbook, and a good test bank, is available with the free digital textbook for $50 and with the print and digital textbook for $80. That's not too much more expensive compared to OpenStax.
That's a very good price. What is the textbook name?
I supplement the Aplia homework system with my own additional weekly assignments. But I would like to know more about these inexpensive resources.
Amber, those Cengage problems you just mentioned, I don't think exists anymore. I have been using Cengage products for my students now for the last 7 years without any major issues!
Will you be making available the slides that you are using in this session for us to look over and review after this session has ended?
no. these look great!
Can perusall be used with other subject areas too?
Great idea for "Pan Open".
Is the "offical" threshold for low cost under $40?
That's my understanding, yes, under $40/semester.
Understanding graphs is very important for my students at Oxnard and Moorpark colleges.
Homework system requirements: For a new instructor, a large, quality problem bank helps. Otherwise you need to put in a huge amount of time to make it useful.
Also, using and data is important.
<$40 ok, for the entire course, right, not just per resource?
Each college determines what they would like to consider as low cost.
I agree Ishita with you, understnading graphs.
Yes, for the entire course (<$40).
$40 per semester is the threshold at GCC
Videos are great.
Yes, videos, and discussions are important Amber.
Anything that engages students and gets them learning on their own - would really help.
There is an ongoing national (extending to Canada) on the appropriate threshold for low cost text. Most agree on $40, but some have suggested $50 as the appropriate marker for STEM courses, including Econ.
Do any of you have Statistics for Economics as a lower division course option?
We don't have Stats for Econ. For us, that would be an upper-division class that a student would take at a 4-year school (eventually Econometrics).
very very nice session
A faculty from Oxnard College is involved with the development of OpenMath, but I didn't find it useful for Econ. Great for Math, though.
Yap. Very well developed for Math, and some new Chem and Physics people there now, too. No econ-specific material yet.
Thank you for an informative session!
Thank you very much Amber and Aaron!
Thank you so much, Amber and Aaron!