Monthly Online DE Coordinators Meeting
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What happenened to the California Open Source Digital Library?
Can we invite OER Lead to present at our Professional Developmetnt Day?
Did the English faculty discuss the issues around using literature? (especially modern short stories/poems/novels)?
If faculty are interested in participating in these committees who should they contact? Or have the people for the coordinating committees already been selected?
I agree with Lene. This is a challenging issue for teachers of English. Anything relatively contemporary is really difficult.
No cost textbooks doesn't necessarily mean OER.
@Kats - right, and it's often "interpreted" differently at different colleges and by different faculty
@Lisa - yes, my board has made OER adoption a goal but we have so many faculty who have created their own materials with no cost to students.
@Lisa --also those who have developed their own materials, they don't want to go through CC license process.
@Kat - good points!
@Kats - which is funny because there isn't really a "process" for cc.
the addition of “not including homework” is confusing
I agree with Lené
@Lene - I agree
What does not including homework mean?
We can see the poll
got the poll
Isn’t the agreement here about the HW reference being confusing? Online courses rarely require everything to be done online. Homework may not be online.
We can see the poll, but need to submit all questins at once.
#3 - Online with proctored assessment
don’t see the polll
the poll opens in a separate window - so it might be under your zoom window
Click on “polling” at the bottom of the screen.
We h ave some disabled students who cannot leave their homes. Courses with in-person assessments are a problem for those people . We need to make sure that students know if there is any reason to come to campus or meet at any given other place at any given time.
I think we know what it means, but the inclusion of the homework exception is confusing.
4—1-3 assessments in person only
Why not just hybrid?
We call fully online "online" and those that have a couple of meetings on campus for assessment, we call "partially online"
#5 - other = partially online means regularly scheduled face-to-face meetings.
I think it is deceptive to call a course "fully online" if it requires traveling. It should be called a hybrid course if you need to come to campus
Call them hybrids
5—more than 3 assessments in person
We also struggle with what to call courses that have at least one in-person meeting.
Christy Davis - Chabot College
#5 - Hybrid
I think adding another term is just adding more confusion.
What about courses that have a required virtual but synchronous meeting?
Maybe we should just strive to clarify the current terms we are already using.
As the chat demonstrate, "hybrid" seems to be a pretty widespread term that is already familiar to students.
Have we asked students what makes sense to them?
@Anna, I agree. If our goal is to communicate more clearly to our students, let’s not add yet another category.
If you want to move into CTE areas, then online with proctored assessments can create a network of proctored skills assessments that can verify CTE skill competency. I think we need to add this.
I agree with that statement. If you require them to leave their home for any reason it shouldn't be considered a fully online course. It is some version of hybrid.
Agree with that statement as well
@Anna, that is exactly how we define "hybrid" as well.
We define hybrid as 51% on campus
What Anna said!!!
I agree with Anne'c comments. Mission College just changed our policy to mean Fully online as not requird meetings and hybrid as everything else. We felt this is best for students.
Francine Van Meter
Agree with Anna's sensible advice!
What if the student has option to take proctored exam online using Proctorio? Is it still considered fully online?
We distinguish between completely online courses and courses that have at least one in person meeting. Planning to bring in a virtual/synchronous category too.
I deliver all of my content online, but require the students to come to campus for their final exam. I'd like a term that reflects the overwhelming percentage of online participation. The term hybrid is more suited to a course that meets regularly in the classroom.
Maybe "Fully online" no in person; "Online" allows limited proctored exams; "Hybrid" more frequent f2f meetings
We call any variations of f2f and online as hybrid, then in the class notes, we detail when students have to come to campus.
Peralta has only 3 - Online (Anna’s version - 100% online), Hybrid (huge variation in options) and F2F.
I suggest a survey that goes to all DECO members, and track to make sure we get most folks to respond.
But it’s not a 4th category.. it’s a kind of hybrid.
I think we need to keep an open mind for adding that extra category.
@Anna--apparently the "process" to get the license seems to be a "hassle"--this from one of the faculty members who developed his own manual and offers it free to his students. I think his issue is probably more that with the CC license, the lab manual becomes public.
we need to continue to change the culture to open our colleagues’ eyes to other possibilities than in-person exams
It might make sense to query students and assess what “online” means to them.
Do they understand “assessment”?
agreed, Anna, e.g. field trips—they’re not assessments but they may require someone leaving the house.
Yes! And that’s required by law.
This feels like a good time to recommend @ONE’s online course, Assessment in Digital Learning. https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/assessment-in-digital-learning/
Thank you! Great meetings.
Look forward to the poll going out to the whole listserve to get wider opinions too. :)
And some advice from students about wording that makes sense to them, the actual user ; )
@Lene - agreed!
How about the rollout of title 5 changes? a recommended path for campuses to implement those changes would be helpful
Quick plug —> Registration is now open for CCC Digital Learning Day, CVC-OEI/@ONE’s next free, online conference on Feb 28. Spread the word! https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/cccdlday19/
@Joanna, sorry I am not sure what you’re referring to.
Also, we have 2 great webinars planned for Feb 1 on “Creating a Sense of Belonging.” Please share: https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/first-fridays/
Thank you, Lisa and Joanna and DEETAC!