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Monthly Online DE Coordinators Meeting
Rhiannon Lares
15:01
http://cccdeco.org/resources/ccc-de-coordinators-monthly-meetings-links/
Jim Julius
20:10
Where these changes create greater distance between “regular and substantive interaction” and “regular effective contact” is there likely to be a revisiting of California Title 5 regs? Or will the California regs likely override for us these federal changes?
Jim Julius
21:00
(Not looking for a definitive response to that, just curious if it has been discussed or if anyone has any particular thoughts)
Dr. Alexa Schumacher, Ph.D
21:54
Can we reopen the Survey and make some edits?
Erin Larson
22:30
Student Survey: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mf1Z3R87SoeDDZ522AG6AU0K47I4ezlpK3HVXp_LhKE/edit?usp=sharingFaculty Survey: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U7mH9cWm1kk8IA952Y33PMBRXtfD8mzEu678xEP_oOE/edit?usp=sharing
skincade232
31:25
Pfeiffer is not muted
Carol Reitan
31:29
Is “assessment” universally understood by students?
Cynthia Wilshusen
33:24
how do campuses deal with dsps accommodations
Lisa Sayles
33:45
For the 4th options it might be helpful to expand to "online with flexible assessment or activity" to include service learning, etc.
pfeiffer
33:45
I am muted on my end
Meghan Chen
33:51
"exam" may be a more commonly understood word.
Cheryl Chapman
35:13
@Cynthia…do you mean dsps for the proctored assessments?
Cheryl Chapman
35:54
Proctored Exams - as what Jim described is an activity
Marie Vicario-Fisher
35:57
I agree. Also what about field trips?
Suzanne Wakim
36:08
Maybe online with "proctored activities" - since I can collect rocks on my own, but proctoring requires some scheduling with others
Marie Vicario-Fisher
38:40
Thank you for clarification
Chelsea Cohen
39:31
I think fully online classes can also have activities that take place out of the home … I think that should be up to the instructor.
Carol Impara
39:53
I don’t agree with the definition that online must be only inside in your pajamas. I agree that fully online classes can have field trips.
Jim Julius
40:03
I’m still confused
Linda Delzeit-McIntyre
40:08
If a class required synchronous instruction but that is fully online, would it fall into the fully online or into the proctored category?
Marie Vicario-Fisher
40:12
So if you require a field trip, it would not be scheduled to qualify as a fully online course?
Tracy Schaelen
40:33
I like Joanna's "in-person requirement" phrasing for the thrid category--it sounds like a more accurate label than "proctored assessment"
Carol Reitan
41:17
We’ve had issues with students that have various conditions (physical and mental) that don’t allow them to leave home. When there are requirements to leave their location, we’ve worked with DSPS to provide accommodations.
Suzanne Wakim
41:58
Maybe - A fully online class is one where students don't have to be at any particular place
Jim Julius
42:06
Still confused
Chelsea Cohen
42:12
Sure, there could be exceptions and other arrangements.
Brett Myhren
42:19
Are we saying that assignments are not part of contact hours?
Jim Julius
42:38
What are the key factors that students need to understand to distinguish the types of online class requirements?
Audrey Blumeneau
42:42
fully online: stay at home; never leave home vs. fully online with outside activities (such as museum or theatre performance that they will be assessed on…
Chloe McGinley
42:49
Maybe removing the "100% online" part would help, leaving it as "No requirements for on-gound meetings or proctoring"
Cynthia Wilshusen
43:01
@cheryl. yes I was just in a meeting with our DSPS director and Assessment trying to understand how to ensure students with DSPS Accommodations. looking for clarity on what services are provided and verified I get what they need (scribe, reader, brain)
Vivie
43:02
fully online = no physical meetings? There may be synchronous "meetings", but are convenient....
Anne Kingsley
43:42
I thought the statement that was said “no requirements for SYNCHRONOUS on-ground meetings or proctoring” was clear…I think the “stay in your pajamas statements” are the things that aren’t clear.
Brett Myhren
44:32
Could students find some of this more granular information on the syllabus?
Chelsea Cohen
44:51
That would make sense, Brett
Brandon Gainer
45:02
That or the course footnotes in a college's catalog: It's that way with my online Public Speaking class.
Michelle Pacansky-Brock
45:08
Has there been research done to see what language other systems are using in their definitions?
Jim Julius
45:15
The intent is to be clear from a student point of view, not a teaching/faculty/curriculum point of view, correct?
Jim Julius
45:49
Would be awesome to have input from a variety of students if so.
Brett Myhren
46:00
Agree, Jim. We want students to understand and be clear about requirements.
Cheryl Chapman
46:15
My audio went….I was going to ask about student’s perspective about what is actually in the schedule to decide if they needed to go to campus or not :0)
Meghan Chen
46:34
I agree, Jim. We need to hear from students.
Jim Julius
46:59
Agree, Cheryl. To me it seems fairly straightforward (but I would like to get students’ perspective). Course is online and
Jim Julius
47:07
(a) there are some on-campus activities required
Vivie
47:11
Bob - Could you send the link to the DECoords list, as well?
Tracy Schaelen
47:13
What both Michelle and Jim are asking about will take more time, but I think we may need to take more time to ensure we get it right.
Carol Reitan
47:14
Has anyone used Quest for new /prospective online teachers?
Jim Julius
47:19
(b) there are no outside-the-home requirements
jmill872
47:26
Thank you so much everyone! I apologize for any confusion over assignments and homework vs. instructional hours. And @Brett you are so right. All of this is to try to determine what is most clear for students! Keep the questions and statements coming!
Jim Julius
47:30
(c) there are flexible outside-the-home local requirements
Matthew Moore
47:42
I would like to say that we need to make sure that when a student is signing up for a class that we are clearly stating all activities that a student is involved in whether those be tests, field trips, labs, etc.
Vivie
47:51
Thanks!
Matthew Moore
48:09
sorry there was not enought time to respond to Joanna.
Patrick B
49:00
Is there a particular format in which CVC-OEI would like the expected outcomes and their indicators expressed?
CCC DECO
49:04
@Matthew - yes, we appreciate all the comments and questions!
Erin Larson
49:16
@Matthew That is exactly what the student reps on DEETAC said.
Bob Nash
50:18
SmarterMeasure+Quest Webinar on April 24, 12 noon, at Zoom: https://cccconfer.zoom.us/j/9448929911
Matthew Moore
50:52
thanks, I am glad that they are being heard
Lisa Sayles
53:28
Does anyone know if/when there is going to be a call for colleges to join the Consortium for the 19/20 academic year?
Cynthia Wilshusen
53:37
on the budget are indirect costs allowed to be included??
Chelsea Cohen
54:04
Lisa, I’ve been told that letters of intent to join will be due in June, self-assessments will be due in December
Christina Lee
54:27
What can be included in supplies and materials for the budget? Fore example, we are using our own laptops, current supplies, so can we include .5% of total cost for general supplies and materials?
Christina Lee
55:19
Or can we purchase laptops as part of supplies/materials?
Audrey Blumeneau
55:57
@Lisa and @Chelsea, I was wondering that also! If they are DUE in June, when or did the Letter of Intent to Join the 19/20 Consortium, already get sent out? Who is sending out this Letter of Intent?
Chelsea Cohen
56:50
I spoke with Kate Jordahl last week. I don’t think this info has been officially announced yet, though
Audrey Blumeneau
57:43
@Chelsea, Thank you! Good to know.
Chelsea Cohen
58:00
@Audrey, you’re welcome :)
Lisa Sayles
01:00:08
@Chelsea, Thank you very much!
Cheryl Chapman
01:07:10
How it was communicated in the schedule is key
Jim Julius
01:07:29
I think for a lot of colleges there will be a direct connection between implementing the new guidelines and what that means in our schedule
steveperry1
01:07:33
YEs, everything needs to be clear to the student when they are registering
Jim Julius
01:08:24
But if that is not the intent, if the DE Guidelines DE class types is supposed to be distinct from student-facing communication, then I think that too needs to be really clear and spelled out in the new DE Guidelines
Tracy Schaelen
01:10:27
Having specific timelines would really help campuses plan.
Audrey Blumeneau
01:10:43
I would really appreciate that timeline to let my AS know what’s going on! Thanks so much!
Chelsea Cohen
01:10:44
I agree!
Matthew Moore
01:13:39
I think students are more concerned about what they actually sign up for (side note). The expectations need to be clearly defined prior to the first day of class.
Matthew Moore
01:13:54
same to you
Carol Hobson
01:13:59
Happy Easter
Matthew Moore
01:14:11
thanks
Brett Myhren
01:14:12
Thanks!
Audrey Blumeneau
01:14:12
Thanks!
Carol Reitan
01:14:13
Thank y ou.
Jim Julius
01:14:13
Thanks Lisa and all DECO folk!
Sharon Oxford
01:14:16
Thank you