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Library Services Platform Project - Ex Libris Primo Demonstration (Shared screen with speaker view)
GCC
13:25
Thanks Amy!
Citrus College
14:46
Can't see you anymore
pingje
14:58
yep, video is gone
Lisa Hatt
15:10
Also the audio is coming in and out. Sometimes it says "Amy Beadle's network bandwidth is low"
Lauren McFall
15:16
not seeing your face
Coastline Elizabeth
15:20
No video.
Lauren McFall
15:25
it says your bandwidth is low
Lauren McFall
15:34
yes
refdesk
15:35
sure.
Coastline Elizabeth
15:37
Yes for audio
GWC LIB
15:37
Yes, no video here. We can hear you however.
Las Positas Library
15:38
yes
pingje
15:39
the sound is better
W0984198
15:40
lots of static
michaelhommel
16:21
Nate was somehow dropped and is trying to regain connection.
Coastline Elizabeth
17:38
Sound going in and out again
Lisa Hatt
19:30
Is there somewhere we can get these slides so we can look over them in more detail?
Lisa Hatt
19:35
(such as the governance chart)
Pearl Ly
20:14
https://cclibrarians.org/sites/default/files/lsp/lsp_project_update_august_27_2018.pptx
Lisa Hatt
20:31
Thanks!
Brian
20:34
we're posting the presentations on cclibrarians.org and will post this one soon
Brian
22:46
I believe this presentation is (slightly) updated from the August 27th one
Mesa
23:47
Sept 27th 10-non is at San Diego MIRAMAR college
Mesa
23:50
*correction
Amy Beadle
25:12
Thanks for the correction, Mesa!
Steve Hunt (Santa Monica)
25:30
Can't hear Nate
Josh Boatright
25:50
still can't hear Nate
Palomar College
25:50
Very disappointing that the Thur Zoom link wasn't made clearly available
Lisa Hatt
25:51
yeah, just silence
pingje
25:59
yeah, no Nate
francessandrade
26:01
Still can hear him
Lauren McFall
26:03
"Nate was somehow dropped and is trying to regain connection." - saw this earlier
Andy
26:21
Can't hear Nate
Coastline Elizabeth
26:44
It shows that NATE has NO audio icon.
Lauren McFall
26:56
maybe best to call in?
Palomar College
27:03
Someone on the 'old' link sent the new one.
Beverly Duval
27:08
Says Amy's network connection is low
Steve Hunt (Santa Monica)
27:41
Ain't technology wonderful?
michaelhommel
28:07
SO sorry folks.
Lauren McFall
28:14
no sound anymore
Lauren McFall
28:25
yay! sound
Norman
28:29
Was just up, a second ago.
pingje
28:42
yes!
Francis Howard
29:51
no sound
Aloha Sargent
30:18
Know any good ghost stories?
Cynthia Ainsworth
30:51
lol Aloha!
Lauren McFall
31:02
there we go
Shasta College
31:12
thinking about implementation is scary!
Lauren McFall
32:02
^haha
Omar Amavizca
32:49
His screen looks frozen, and the slides are not full screen. Could someone suggest he use the full screen button at the bottom of the screen?
GCC
33:01
we are not seeing screen
cbrockenbrough
33:38
Mike please give us an introduction to Nate
Steve Hunt (Santa Monica)
34:12
Can we use Primo as an OPAC without using it as a Discovery tool? It may be hard to set up all our database resources for Day 1.
cbrockenbrough
34:19
Is Nate a librarian?
Norman
34:47
Please send the slide presentation, if it gets "rushed".
Beverly Duval
34:52
Sounds good
El Camino College
34:54
Yes, can Alma be used with any discovery platform or would we only need to use Primo?
GWC LIB
35:14
Is there a listserve that we can sign up to get updates?
Santa Ana College
35:32
Have the strengths of Summon's central index been integrated into Primo?
Lauren McFall
35:39
will Primo be able to integrate EBSCO results?
Maryanne Mills
35:41
Can we see a live demo now of the interface? Yesterday there was a preview of another college’s interface.
Mesa
35:46
If a college wanted to use a different Discovery service, how would that be handled. Does the college receive any compensation towards an alternative discovery tool?
Citrus College
35:52
I've never seen the patron interface, any way you can demo just a library using it?
Aloha Sargent
35:53
Question: how well does Primo handle EBSCO databases via discovery?
El Camino College
35:55
Second question. We're a library that has a lot of EBSCO content. How does the EBSCO databases integrate with Primo discovery, i.e. how does metadata get passed to Primo?
Norman
36:14
Yes
Sarah Lehmann
36:16
I second the question about how well EBSCO content integrates with Primo.
Steve Hunt (Santa Monica)
36:30
Have Proquest and Ebsco resolved their unwillingness to share metadata with each other?
Santa Ana College
36:43
How is relevancy determined? What are possibilites for privileging types of materials?
Norman
37:00
Yes. EBSCO and ProQuest must cooperate. Or else. :)
El Camino College
37:19
Second the question if Primo is able to bridge Proquest and EBSCO
Brian
37:42
Is there a list of community colleges using Primo? I understand there aren't any in California (yet!)
Pearl Ly
37:45
You tell them, Norman (in a detailed review)
Deborah
38:16
We've put a fair amount of time into customizing our EDS interface. Could we keep using EDS?
Norman
39:21
Isn't Ventura/Moorpark/Oxnard using Primo?
Maryanne Mills
39:22
Would the Primo interface become the library’s home page?
michaelhommel
40:26
Alma must use Primo as its discovery layer.
Tom Stough
40:28
Can we put a local brand on our Primo site?
Brian
43:27
You're right, Norman. I didn't realize that. Are they using Alma?
GCC
43:56
Are you saying that Primo can search digital collections platforms, like ContentDM? Or does Alma/Primo include a digital collections platform?
Las Positas Library
44:09
Is there Banner integration with Alma?
Sandra Pesce
44:51
Slideshow is lagging behind talk; loading slowly.
Lisa Hatt
44:58
oh no
Tom Dolen - De Anza
45:16
lost ya, Nate
Lauren McFall
45:47
yes!
Beverly Duval
45:48
Yes
cynthiamagana
45:50
yes!
GCC
45:51
Yes
Trev Passage
45:51
yup
Jeffrey Karlsen
46:16
If Alma has an API in any meaningful sense, it should be possible to integrate it into EDS. If it really can't be done, I think we'd have to conclude that the API doesn't really amount to much.
michaelhommel
47:19
Yes. Local branding is easy with Primo.
michaelhommel
47:55
Yes. Ventura, Oxnard & Moorpark are using Primo.
michaelhommel
48:36
Those three colleges are using Voyager with Primo
michaelhommel
49:12
Yes. Alma integrates with all ERP systems.
michaelhommel
49:26
Including Banner
mforney@palomar.edu
49:41
PeopleSoft??
Josh Boatright
49:49
would you be able to add search box to Canvas?
Omar Amavizca
50:07
How well does this play with existing interfaces? We have Omni for our institution's website, and the library also uses SpringShare. Do we have to redesign our homepage to redirect, or will it integrate like an LTI or widget?
Norman
50:10
Does Ex-Libris assist with creating the desired search box for libraries to place on their home pages and other key areas?
Cecilia Hui
50:10
Does Primo provide a new book list page? I haven’t seen one from any of these library web site yet. Thanks.
Tom Stough
50:16
Will we be able to customize the UX ourselves?
Heather Dodge
50:40
On the landing page is there a possible widget for social media so we could insert twitter/instrgram?
michaelhommel
51:13
Yes. All ERP systems. PeopleSoft too.
michaelhommel
52:09
Yes. Primo is very customizable.
GCC
55:29
Do we have control over the relevancy ranking of results?
Las Positas Library
57:31
Can we see a list of database vendors that you partner with?
GCC
57:40
Can you talk more about the "topics" - where is that metadata coming from?
El Camino College
58:02
Are EBSCO databases listed in that "Collections" tab on the righthand side?
Norman
58:58
Entries seem bibliographic/thin. Can abstracts be "Captured" or used via Primo from its partners or is it different than Summon or EDS and it's only bibliographic lines and that's it?
Elizabeth Bowman
59:26
Can we have “Refine my results” appear to the left of search results instead of to the right?
Norman
01:00:32
Ditto on "Refine my results" on the left. It's become "Standardized" to have limiting features via a left column.
Elizabeth Bowman
01:00:54
Is it possible to do a call number search within our local collection
Tony McGee
01:00:57
How does this Primo interface work with a screen reader like JAWS or other disability supportive software?
michaelhommel
01:01:40
Yes. results can go on either side. Up to you.
Norman
01:01:51
To further Tony's question, it is WCAG 2.0 AA minimum, right?
Deborah
01:02:31
What account do they use to sign in? Alma?
michaelhommel
01:02:32
We fully comply with accessibility standards. With all of our products.
GCC
01:02:54
can we save a search, which would generate a link to that search result?
michaelhommel
01:03:49
Yes. Searches can easily be saved.
Norman
01:04:02
Can Primo be used to create a link to search a particular set of databases that can then be "permalinked"?
Elizabeth Bowman
01:04:07
Can the Primo login be set the our campus email login?
GCC
01:04:09
can we only use LCSH, not mesh, etc.?
El Camino College
01:06:07
Does Alma/Primo have their own Proxy module? Or do we need a 3rd party module like EZProxy?
(BCC) Heather Dodge
01:06:21
Ditto the question on proxy.
Norman
01:06:31
Can a GVRL book be "pushed" as a suggestion for broad terms such as these on the top of the screen?
Sarah Lehmann
01:07:12
Second Norman's question! ^
Jeffrey Karlsen
01:08:41
Is the patron account--their renewals, requests, fines, circ history etc--part of Alma or part of Primo?
michaelhommel
01:10:12
Note to all: I will continue to answer those questions that I am equipped to answer. Nate will likely cover many of the more specific technical / functional questions as he continues. Anything not covered will be followed up.
Lisa Hatt
01:11:03
It's a bit strange they should have to sign in to see that information?
Mesa
01:11:46
What/where is the interface for managing 3rd party collections to connect and become discoverable on primo?
Norman
01:11:49
There is a "guest" version of Primo, of course, right?
michaelhommel
01:11:49
They need to though. Otherwise the system doesn’t know who you are, or if you’re a patron with access to the materials.
Lisa Hatt
01:12:00
But just to see what the policy *is*?
Lisa Hatt
01:12:43
(I'm not sure what sort of information would appear there - is it lending policy, or?)
michaelhommel
01:13:23
Any stranger can search any libraries resources. But to use any type of library service (check it out, put it on hill, etc) requires a login.
michaelhommel
01:13:38
Hold…not hill. Sorry.
Norman
01:13:39
Nevermind. Obviously there's a guest version. I guess it's the confusion pertaining to what we couldn't find, i.e. policy, etc.
Lisa Hatt
01:14:27
We can configure which MARC fields are displeyed?
Lisa Hatt
01:14:55
displayed*
Elizabeth Bowman
01:16:22
is it possible for the item type for the ebook to be listed as “ebook” instead of “book”?
Cecilia Hui
01:16:32
Just a comment, that detailed title screen seems very complicated to my basic skill students. Can we customized that screen? Otherwise, it may confuse my students.thank you.
Lisa Hatt
01:17:12
Can we configure which MARC fields are inspected for deciding what format/content something is called?
GCC
01:18:08
Same question as Lisa, specifically about subject headings -- will we be able to limit what subject headings get displayed in "topics" facet?
Mesa
01:18:21
Is there a detailed view of the results?
Mesa
01:18:31
Like to see abstracts, subject headings and the like?
Lisa Hatt
01:19:33
are the local notes integrated into the title/bib record, or stored separately and only merged for display?
Norman
01:19:48
Are we going to see back end at all? I'd be curious HOW some of this can be customizable and ease of use. What can be customized locally by a librarian, what may require a request to the vendor for terms/terminologies (such as Ebook labels, for esxample)?
Pasadena City College
01:19:49
can we toggle on/off FRBRization?
Mesa
01:20:02
Does content types include items we may have circulating that are physical objects: laptops, calculators
Maryanne Mills
01:22:47
How is “related reading” different than “virtual browse” which you showed us earlier?
Steve Hunt (Santa Monica)
01:23:34
The yellow highlighting might be problematic for some people with reading/processing disorders. Hope it can be suppressed.
Norman
01:23:37
Can the "related readings" be limited to what is in the local library?
Lisa Hatt
01:24:36
can an expert search be done with index labels similar to WorldCat?
michaelhommel
01:24:50
Content types include physical, electronic, digital, and also things like laptops, DVDs for check out, etc.
Cecilia Hui
01:25:01
Can we create our own index for searching?
Lisa Hatt
01:25:45
can we search the local notes/data fields?
Elizabeth Bowman
01:25:55
where does the “cited in” information come from?
Omar Amavizca
01:26:51
how strict does Primo require spelling? does it need to be exact or will it provide suggestions?
michaelhommel
01:27:31
Primo works similarly to Google in this regard. Auto-correct, “did you mean”, etc.
michaelhommel
01:27:45
You can also paste entire citation into the search bar
michaelhommel
01:29:03
Cited in: this is called “citation trails”. It allows the patron to see what this resources cites, and also the other direction - who cited that resource.
Cecilia Hui
01:29:18
For course reserve search, can we see the course ID she is currently teaching to associate the textbook?
Lisa Hatt
01:29:49
How does it know who cited who?
Lisa Hatt
01:31:04
linking metadata I expect, but can this be added by us, or are we dependent on it coming from somewhere else?
Norman
01:31:48
Great. We know Libguides and StackMap work with Primo. What other integrations are there?
Steve Hunt (Santa Monica)
01:32:36
Does Primo support SSO (single sign-on) with Windows Active Directory and other sources?
michaelhommel
01:32:43
Yes to SSO.
Brian
01:32:53
Is Syndetic included with the statewide LSP project?
(BCC) Heather Dodge
01:33:07
So could we integrate the landing page directly into Canvas?
michaelhommel
01:33:08
Syndetics is not included.
Lisa Hatt
01:34:03
"Enable Syndetics Unbound"?
Steve Hunt (Santa Monica)
01:35:23
How easy is it to set up new database resources for use in Primo. I have heard it is not as easy as another, unamed, Easy Discovery Service.
Megan @ CCSF
01:36:02
😂
Norman
01:36:12
Let alone one that can "Summon," which is also relatively easy. ;)
Cecilia Hui
01:36:33
Can the students pay the overdue fee online?
Brian
01:36:44
What's the best example of a library currently using Alma/Primo that's the most similar what the basic statewide LSP offer will look and act like?
Norman
01:37:27
It would be nice to see how databases get implemented, how individual GVRL ebooks get added into the Discovery system. I'm fine to get the user experience, but I'd like more what to do back end-wise.
Omar Amavizca
01:37:37
Can we address the EZ proxy question from earlier? "Does Alma/Primo have their own Proxy module? Or do we need a 3rd party module like EZProxy?"
(BCC) Heather Dodge
01:37:51
Ditto the proxy question.
Norman
01:38:41
It seems WMS-esque but at least some more options.
michaelhommel
01:39:17
The way that Primo looks and feels largely depends on how each library wants it to look and feel.
Norman
01:39:34
Yes, authentication/proxy?
GWC LIB
01:39:40
Is there a listserve for librarians and library staff that we can sign up for so we can get updates? Thank you.
Santa Ana College
01:39:43
What are the possibilites for catalog overlays such as VuFind?
vlombardo
01:39:45
Is there a way to customize the size of book cover images and the position and size of the call #s and locations?
Amy Carbonaro
01:39:53
You'll need a 3rd party for a proxy service.
Brian
01:39:59
You can sign up for the mailing list here: https://cclibrarians.org/about-us/mailing-list-information
Citrus College
01:40:10
I love all the customization options!
Lauren McFall
01:40:12
I'd love to hear about EBSCO
Lauren McFall
01:40:17
integration
Brian
01:40:20
We're using the cclibrarians-all list for communications
Lisa Hatt
01:40:26
Both of these sessions had way more questions then it would be possible to answer and the demos themselves were very quick. Maybe they need to be longer (split over two sessions perhaps)
Megan @ CCSF
01:40:54
some of the questions in chat are answered here: https://www.ccctechnology.info/ccctc/categories/ccctc_library_services_platform
Cecilia Hui
01:41:07
Does Alma/Primo include features like SFX?
mforney@palomar.edu
01:41:15
Did you confirm there will be recording links for the 2 sessions?
Elizabeth Bowman
01:41:18
Can actions and updates be batched on records in the course reserves module?
Staff
01:41:32
Yes. We will send out links to both today.
Citrus College
01:41:36
When will the recorded links be sent out, roughly?
Shasta College
01:41:46
Yes - it has open url (sfx)
michaelhommel
01:41:51
SFX is a legacy Ex Libris link resolver. Alma has its own link resolver. Therefore, SFX is not required with Alma.
Sandra Pesce
01:42:12
How would this work with Serials Solutions? Would I still need to subscribe to that service?
Cecilia Hui
01:42:17
thanks, Michael and Shasta College. I appreciate it.
Staff
01:43:10
Will send links to today's recording and yesterday's in a few hours. Here is the link for the Alma webinar from yesterday: https://cccconfer.zoom.us/recording/share/wtk57Remq11ocRx5f852BL9aubQkgEcu_TzpQEoeLgiwIumekTziMw
(BCC) Heather Dodge
01:43:22
So we don't need a proxy service?
Citrus College
01:43:24
Thx!
Santa Ana College
01:43:29
Thank you!
Francis Howard
01:44:09
Thanks
GWC LIB
01:44:18
Thank you for the presentation. Alma and Primo. It was very informative. I look forward to accesing the recorded version to distribute to my colleagues.
michaelhommel
01:45:28
You are all most welcome!
Sandra Pesce
01:45:32
thx!
cynthiamagana
01:45:38
Thank you!
pingje
01:45:46
Thanks!
Andy
01:50:24
I'm affraid you don't have my email, so just in case I'm giving it to you for the link to todays webinar recordingmezynsab@lacitycollege.edu