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Monthly Online DE Coordinators Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
Erin Larson
32:53
CDAM - http://extranet.cccco.edu/Divisions/FinanceFacilities/FiscalStandardsandAccountibilityUnit/FiscalAccountability/ContractedDistrictAuditManual.aspx#CDAM_for_Fiscal_Year_2018-19
Kats
37:29
What happenened to the California Open Source Digital Library?
Nasreen Rahim
42:52
Can we invite OER Lead to present at our Professional Developmetnt Day?
Lené Whitley-Putz
43:26
Did the English faculty discuss the issues around using literature? (especially modern short stories/poems/novels)?
Anna Stirling
45:43
If faculty are interested in participating in these committees who should they contact? Or have the people for the coordinating committees already been selected?
Brett Myhren
45:44
I agree with Lene. This is a challenging issue for teachers of English. Anything relatively contemporary is really difficult.
Kats
46:10
No cost textbooks doesn't necessarily mean OER.
Lisa Beach
47:20
@Kats - right, and it's often "interpreted" differently at different colleges and by different faculty
Kats
48:24
@Lisa - yes, my board has made OER adoption a goal but we have so many faculty who have created their own materials with no cost to students.
Kats
49:11
@Lisa --also those who have developed their own materials, they don't want to go through CC license process.
Lisa Beach
49:33
@Kat - good points!
Anna Stirling
49:42
@Kats - which is funny because there isn't really a "process" for cc.
Lisa Beach
49:55
tinyurl.com/asccc-oeriw
Art Sandford
53:53
yes
Lené Whitley-Putz
53:59
the addition of “not including homework” is confusing
Jorge Ascencio
54:11
Yes
Heather Rothenberg
54:14
Yes
Kandace Knudson
54:24
I agree with Lené
Anna Stirling
54:28
@Lene - I agree
Carol Hobson
55:44
What does not including homework mean?
Lené Whitley-Putz
56:00
We can see the poll
Rob Sambrano
56:03
got the poll
Michelle Pilati
56:16
Isn’t the agreement here about the HW reference being confusing? Online courses rarely require everything to be done online. Homework may not be online.
Heather Rothenberg
56:17
We can see the poll, but need to submit all questins at once.
Linda
56:30
#3 - Online with proctored assessment
Davena BurnsPeters
56:35
don’t see the polll
Anna Stirling
56:56
the poll opens in a separate window - so it might be under your zoom window
Michelle Pilati
56:59
Click on “polling” at the bottom of the screen.
Carol Reitan
57:02
We h ave some disabled students who cannot leave their homes. Courses with in-person assessments are a problem for those people . We need to make sure that students know if there is any reason to come to campus or meet at any given other place at any given time.
Lené Whitley-Putz
57:14
I think we know what it means, but the inclusion of the homework exception is confusing.
Davena BurnsPeters
57:15
found it
Kandace Knudson
57:35
4—1-3 assessments in person only
Anna Stirling
57:39
Why not just hybrid?
Kats
57:46
We call fully online "online" and those that have a couple of meetings on campus for assessment, we call "partially online"
Nasreen Rahim
57:52
Hybrid
Art Sandford
57:53
hybrid online
Linda
57:57
#5 - other = partially online means regularly scheduled face-to-face meetings.
Tammara Whitaker
58:01
I think it is deceptive to call a course "fully online" if it requires traveling. It should be called a hybrid course if you need to come to campus
Scott Vigallon
58:01
Call them hybrids
Kandace Knudson
58:08
5—more than 3 assessments in person
Carol Reitan
58:27
We also struggle with what to call courses that have at least one in-person meeting.
Christy Davis - Chabot College
58:36
#5 - Hybrid
Anna Stirling
58:57
I think adding another term is just adding more confusion.
Carol Reitan
59:05
What about courses that have a required virtual but synchronous meeting?
Anna Stirling
59:35
Maybe we should just strive to clarify the current terms we are already using.
Tracy Schaelen
59:38
As the chat demonstrate, "hybrid" seems to be a pretty widespread term that is already familiar to students.
Lené Whitley-Putz
59:58
Have we asked students what makes sense to them?
Michelle Pacansky-Brock
59:59
@Anna, I agree. If our goal is to communicate more clearly to our students, let’s not add yet another category.
Linda
01:00:22
If you want to move into CTE areas, then online with proctored assessments can create a network of proctored skills assessments that can verify CTE skill competency. I think we need to add this.
Anna Stirling
01:00:28
I agree with that statement. If you require them to leave their home for any reason it shouldn't be considered a fully online course. It is some version of hybrid.
Jorge Ascencio
01:00:52
Agree with that statement as well
Tracy Schaelen
01:02:36
@Anna, that is exactly how we define "hybrid" as well.
Kats
01:02:38
We define hybrid as 51% on campus
inger stark
01:02:39
What Anna said!!!
Heather Rothenberg
01:03:07
I agree with Anne'c comments. Mission College just changed our policy to mean Fully online as not requird meetings and hybrid as everything else. We felt this is best for students.
Francine Van Meter
01:03:23
Agree with Anna's sensible advice!
Nasreen Rahim
01:03:35
What if the student has option to take proctored exam online using Proctorio? Is it still considered fully online?
Carol Reitan
01:03:38
We distinguish between completely online courses and courses that have at least one in person meeting. Planning to bring in a virtual/synchronous category too.
Rob Sambrano
01:03:41
I deliver all of my content online, but require the students to come to campus for their final exam. I'd like a term that reflects the overwhelming percentage of online participation. The term hybrid is more suited to a course that meets regularly in the classroom.
Michael Smedshammer
01:03:58
Maybe "Fully online" no in person; "Online" allows limited proctored exams; "Hybrid" more frequent f2f meetings
Scott Vigallon
01:04:05
We call any variations of f2f and online as hybrid, then in the class notes, we detail when students have to come to campus.
inger stark
01:04:08
Peralta has only 3 - Online (Anna’s version - 100% online), Hybrid (huge variation in options) and F2F.
inger stark
01:04:49
I suggest a survey that goes to all DECO members, and track to make sure we get most folks to respond.
Carol Reitan
01:05:14
Math?
Kandace Knudson
01:05:35
@Carol ;-)
inger stark
01:05:47
But it’s not a 4th category.. it’s a kind of hybrid.
Linda
01:05:48
I think we need to keep an open mind for adding that extra category.
Kats
01:06:01
@Anna--apparently the "process" to get the license seems to be a "hassle"--this from one of the faculty members who developed his own manual and offers it free to his students. I think his issue is probably more that with the CC license, the lab manual becomes public.
Kandace Knudson
01:06:41
we need to continue to change the culture to open our colleagues’ eyes to other possibilities than in-person exams
Kandace Knudson
01:07:05
go ahead
inger stark
01:07:16
It might make sense to query students and assess what “online” means to them.
Carol Reitan
01:08:29
Do they understand “assessment”?
Kandace Knudson
01:08:34
agreed, Anna, e.g. field trips—they’re not assessments but they may require someone leaving the house.
inger stark
01:09:24
Yes! And that’s required by law.
Michelle Pacansky-Brock
01:09:39
This feels like a good time to recommend @ONE’s online course, Assessment in Digital Learning. https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/assessment-in-digital-learning/
inger stark
01:10:12
Thank you! Great meetings.
Anna Stirling
01:10:36
Look forward to the poll going out to the whole listserve to get wider opinions too. :)
Lené Whitley-Putz
01:11:08
And some advice from students about wording that makes sense to them, the actual user ; )
Anna Stirling
01:11:21
@Lene - agreed!
Lisa Beach
01:12:56
edstream.ed.gov
inger stark
01:13:35
Whoa.
inger stark
01:13:42
Yes please!
Anna Stirling
01:13:43
Yes!
Kandace Knudson
01:13:43
Yes!
Carol Reitan
01:13:43
yes
Brett Myhren
01:13:44
yes!
ngolz
01:13:47
yes
Jorge Ascencio
01:13:51
yes
Carol Hobson
01:13:55
Yes please
Kandace Knudson
01:14:15
How about the rollout of title 5 changes? a recommended path for campuses to implement those changes would be helpful
Michelle Pacansky-Brock
01:14:25
Quick plug —> Registration is now open for CCC Digital Learning Day, CVC-OEI/@ONE’s next free, online conference on Feb 28. Spread the word! https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/cccdlday19/
Michelle Pacansky-Brock
01:14:39
@Joanna, sorry I am not sure what you’re referring to.
Michelle Pacansky-Brock
01:15:52
Also, we have 2 great webinars planned for Feb 1 on “Creating a Sense of Belonging.” Please share: https://onlinenetworkofeducators.org/first-fridays/
Kandace Knudson
01:15:53
Thank you, Lisa and Joanna and DEETAC!
Carol Reitan
01:16:22
Thank you!
Brett Myhren
01:16:23
thanks!
inger stark
01:16:25
Thank you!